User:The Cunctator: Difference between revisions

Revision as of 13:46, 5 December 2001

Good idea: test the PHP script

Bad idea: balkanize discussion.

One hopes enlightenment will come before total darkness falls.

12 November: too bad. I would have very much liked to build the entry on the plane crash. Oh well.

29 November: Good idea: Have policy pages as part of Wikipedia.

Bad idea: Fear-based, military-analogy policies: "it's possible that the average newbie in this generation of contributors would be of the way-too-clueless variety, and that a significant minority would be downright malicious..." "It could be a major disaster." Save the fear-mongering for the federal government with respect to acts of terrorism, not a openly editable website. We don't need the Wikipedia equivalent of the USA PATRIOT Act. LMS needs to stop watching so much CNN. (Seriously, though, if you're in charge of a collaborative, volunteer project, and you start getting a bunker mentality, a red flag should be going up.)

(This is not your page, Cunctator. If you think it is appropriate to use your user page to attack me, I insist that I be given equal time to defend myself. Feel free to delete the following from this page only if you delete the above attack on me. -- Apologies, of course, to those who think that it's a mistake to defend myself. --LMS)

Really, really bad idea, nay, a breathtakingly idiotic idea: constantly shooting yourself in the foot by constantly using inflammatory language, such as "fear-based," above, instead of trying to engage people with whom you disagree in polite, reasoned dialogue. The Wikipedia Militia notion isn't fear-based. If you think it is, you just don't get it. I'm not engaging in fear-mongering. I'm trying, in what was intended to be a lighthearted way (until you came along and spun it in a way that made me look as bad as possible), to get people turned on to the idea of doing a whole lot of work whenever the time comes to make sure that a huge crop of misguided new people do not ruin Wikipedia--as they could. Most people who arrive "get it." There is always a minority who don't, and they need teaching and dissuading from doing really damaging edits.

The above sort of comment, Cunctator, borders on libel (because not only is it false, it's outrageously false and completely insulting, and seems designed to damage my reputation). This frankly outrages me and wastes me time. I maintain that I am a very reasonable person. If you reasonably raise a point, I will reasonably respond. If you accuse me of "fear mongering" and "a bunker mentality" such that "a red flag should be going up," as you are constantly doing, then you cannot expect me to take you seriously. So stop it, already. Treat me nicely, and I will treat you nicely. --Larry_Sanger

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 Bad idea: Fear-based, military-analogy policies: "it's possible that the average newbie in this generation of contributors would be of the way-too-clueless variety, and that a significant minority would be downright malicious..." "It could be a major disaster." Save the fear-mongering for the federal government with respect to acts of terrorism, not a openly editable website. We don't need the Wikipedia equivalent of the [http://www.wikipedia.com/wiki/USA_PATRIOT_Act USA PATRIOT Act]. LMS needs to stop watching so much CNN. (Seriously, though, if you're in charge of a collaborative, volunteer project, and you start getting a bunker mentality, a red flag should be going up.)
+:(This is not your page, Cunctator.  If you think it is appropriate to use your user page to attack me, I insist that I be given equal time to defend myself.  Feel free to delete the following from this page only if you delete the above attack on me. -- Apologies, of course, to those who think that it's a mistake to defend myself. --LMS)
+:''Really, really'' bad idea, nay, a breathtakingly idiotic idea: constantly shooting yourself in the foot by constantly using inflammatory language, such as "fear-based," above, instead of trying to engage people with whom you disagree in polite, reasoned dialogue.  The Wikipedia Militia notion isn't ''fear-based.''  If you think it is, you just don't get it.  I'm not engaging in ''fear-mongering.''  I'm trying, in what was '''intended to be''' a lighthearted way (until you came along and spun it in a way that made me look as bad as possible), to get people turned on to the idea of ''doing a whole lot of work'' whenever the time comes to make sure that a huge crop of misguided new people do not ruin Wikipedia--as they could.  Most people who arrive "get it."  There is always a minority who don't, and they need teaching and dissuading from doing really damaging edits.
+:The above sort of comment, Cunctator, borders on libel (because not only is it false, it's outrageously false and completely insulting, and seems designed to damage my reputation).  This frankly outrages me and wastes me time.  I maintain that I am a very reasonable person.  If you reasonably raise a point, I will reasonably respond.  If you accuse me of "fear mongering" and "a bunker mentality" such that "a red flag should be going up," as you are ''constantly doing,'' then you cannot expect me to take you seriously.  So '''stop it,''' already.  Treat me nicely, and I will treat you nicely. --[[user:Larry_Sanger|Larry_Sanger]]
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