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| Greetings all! I think we need to make the Main page more immediately visually accessible - in other words, '''what Wikiversity is''' and '''what you can do there'''. I'm not such a whizz at Mediawiki design, so I'd appreciate any help in making a better page layout. I can then help with adding and creating links.. [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] 12:30, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
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| | {{attention}} To discuss the structure, appearance, etc. of the [[Main Page]], go to the [[main page learning project]] and the [[Talk:main page learning project|talk page for the main page learning project]].<br> |
| | {{attention}} To raise general topics about [[Wikiversity]], make general suggestions about Wikiversity, to ask questions, or to talk about anything else of a general nature, use the [[Wikiversity:Colloquium|Colloquium]]. |
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| ==Other languages==
| | [[Wikiversity:Main Page|Main Page]] | [[Wikiversity talk:Main Page|talk]] | [[Wikiversity talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1 (August)]] | [[Wikiversity talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2 (September)]] | [[Wikiversity talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3 (Oct+Nov)]] | [[Wikiversity talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4 (Dec+Jan)]] | [[Wikiversity talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5 (Feb - July '07)]] | [[Wikiversity talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6 (July to November '07)]] | [[Wikiversity talk:Main Page/Archive 7|July to November '08]] |
| The other languages link to de: links to de:Wikipedia. Is there a way to fix this? --[[User:Fang Aili|Fang Aili]] 15:35, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :It's being worked on. It depends on Brion's schedule since this requires a direct change in the database. -- [[User:sebmol|sebmol]] [[User talk:sebmol|<sup>?</sup>]] 17:24, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
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| | Can you please add the '''korean wikiversity''' to '''"In other languages"'''. It was already approved. |
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| == Protection == | | ==The [[main page learning project]]== |
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| Is it really necessary to protect the main page in its first few days of existence? --[[User:Fang Aili|Fang Aili]] <sup>[[User talk:Fang Aili|talk]]</sup> 17:20, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
| | The [[main page learning project]] was launched after the redesign of the main page in December 2007. The [[main page learning project]] has as its goal "the promotion of responsible involvement of the Wikiversity community in an efficient, productive, open and inclusive maintenance of the Wikiversity main page as a flagship of the activity and values of the Wikiversity community". If you would like to get involved in the design of the main page, this is where to go. |
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| :I just undid it, but it should probably be redone tonight whenever the last admin goes to bed. Right now there are plenty around to take care of any vandalism that may happen. -- [[User:sebmol|sebmol]] [[User talk:sebmol|<sup>?</sup>]] 17:23, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
| | If you have general comments about the main page, but you don't especially want to get involved in the main page project, then you can also leave comments on the [[Talk:main page learning project|talk page for the main page learning project]]. |
| ::Sounds good. --[[User:Fang Aili|Fang Aili]] <sup>[[User talk:Fang Aili|talk]]</sup> 17:24, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :::[[Wikiversity:Main Page/Design]] could be used for edits. This idea is discussed in ''Page organization'' subsection below. [[User:Doug|Doug]] 19:37, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
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| | '''''If you wish to post something below, go ahead. It's a talk page. But you are more likely to get a response by going to the [[Wikiversity:Colloquium|Colloquium]], which is where the main talking at Wikiversity goes on! See you there.''''' |
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| == Spaces == | | == News or no news? == |
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| Should a "School of X" be in the Wikiversity namespace (e.g. [[Wikiversity:School of Engineering]]) or should it be called [[School of Engineering]] on its own? Or simply [[Engineering]]? --[[User:Fang Aili|Fang Aili]] <sup>[[User talk:Fang Aili|talk]]</sup> 17:26, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
| | If there isn't a steady stream of news, that section might be better off away from the main page. And some other sort of content rotation would be welcome. [[User:Sj|Sj]] 05:18, 13 March 2010 (UTC) |
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| :Good question. Can you come to the chat? We're all here talking if you want to join us. -- [[User:sebmol|sebmol]] [[User talk:sebmol|<sup>?</sup>]] 17:28, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
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| ::Can't right now, sorry. --[[User:Fang Aili|Fang Aili]] <sup>[[User talk:Fang Aili|talk]]</sup> 17:34, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
| | +[[:sv:]] - Thanx! -- [[User:Lavallen|Lavallen]] 14:30, 4 December 2010 (UTC) |
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| == Page organization == | | == Page layout problem (Safari for mac) == |
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| I re-organized the layout of the main page. Done now. | | Hey, I'm using Safari and there is a problem with the layout of the page. The "Help" section overlaps with the footer of the page where we see the wiki sister projects. That's probably a css error (something like a "clear:both" missing somewhere). If someone has the permission to fix this, please do so. Thanks! |
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| To do (and "done" by various editors):
| | I tested the page on firefox for mac and it loads correctly. [[User:Leadtimpani|Leadtimpani]] 15:25, 23 January 2011 (UTC) |
| *edit the browse box (indent text -- remove rule line?)
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| *'''Done''' - changed "open-content" to "free-content". decide on whether to use "free-content" or "open-content" in several places on page
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| *'''Done''' - revise the links section (into 2 columns?).
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| *'''Done''' - "department" changed to "subject". while "department" is used on wikibooks in the same manner as on main page, is this the correct term? (department usually means something more specific like physics or anthropology) would "study areas" be better?
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| [[User:Doug|Doug]] 18:52, 15 August 2006 (UTC) | |
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| PS. In the "Help develop Wikiversity!" box, an invitation could be made to edit the main page as in:
| | Is this an online school here . --[[User:JabocJacobOhYeah|JabocJacobOhYeah]] 23:08, 1 March 2011 (UTC)__ __ |
| * Help with '''[[Wikiversity:Main Page/Design]]'''
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| A "stable" version of this page could be uploaded regularly. Or, along lines (less ponderously so) of the en.Wikipedia main page revision this Spring, perhaps revisions could be consensed/voted on by admins and/or all users. [[User:Doug|Doug]] 19:36, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :Good idea. It is after all the first page people see so it should always be in a presentable condition. I've moved the design page to [[Wikiversity:Main Page/Design]] since it doesn't really belong into the main namespace. -- [[User:sebmol|sebmol]] [[User talk:sebmol|<sup>?</sup>]] 16:09, 16 August 2006 (UTC) | | Hi Is THis An Online School Here .[[Special:Contributions/173.178.93.250|173.178.93.250]] 22:43, 4 March 2011 (UTC)__ __ |
| | : This is an [[educational wiki]] - see [[What is Wikiversity]] -- [[User:Jtneill|Jtneill]] - <small>[[User talk:Jtneill|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Jtneill|c]]</small> 00:07, 5 March 2011 (UTC) |
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| ::Bad idea. It hampers non administrative editors. Trash or vandalism on the main page will not damage a learning institution more than letting an initial unofficial clique get in the habit off controlling site activities. Consider a brick in mortar. When someone spray paints or taggs the administrative centers walls or a Department Head's car is all work and study at the institution immediately suspended and control handed over to the janitors or one Dept Head? It is theoretically possible to define a human expert in encyclopedias, dictionaries, or publishing formats and procedures. It is self evidently impossible to find or create an expert in all fields of human learning. [[User:Mirwin|Mirwin]] 02:41, 18 August 2006 (UTC) | | == Other languages == |
| | Can you add '''arab language''' of Wikiuniversity in '''(In other languages)''' ? Greetings. -- [[User:Faycal.09|Faycal.09]] <small>([[User talk:Faycal.09|talk]]) </small> 08:46, 24 March 2011 (UTC) |
| | : This is the arab language version ([http://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B5%D9%81%D8%AD%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B1%D8%A6%D9%8A%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%A9 wikiversity - الصفحة الرئيسية]). Greetings. -- [[User:Faycal.09|Faycal.09]] <small>([[User talk:Faycal.09|talk]]) </small> 08:34, 25 March 2011 (UTC) |
| | :: Nice idea, that beta project is getting pretty good. I don't see a reason not to link to it. <span style="padding:0 2px 0 2px;background-color:white;color:#bbb;">–[[User:Sj|SJ]][[User Talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f90;">+</font>]]</span> 21:07, 10 July 2011 (UTC) |
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| ::: '''The intent of the design page is to include everyone's input.''' A process for somehow regularly loading revisions doesn't exclude any input. The design page is a good idea for when it becomes necessary to protect the main page because of increasing traffic, just is done on Wikipedia now. This is a probability. I also feel it is a good idea to implement a design page for all edits soon because it allows people with page layout experience to clean up gently the page layout impact of substantial content edits (which often can mess up the graphical aspects of page layout) before going to the main page (and not even having the final say -- just a clean up that can be revised until page reaches a lull/stability for a day or two) -- without subtracting content or removing emphasis. Perhaps an example of this in practice for a limited time frame would demonstrate the benefits -- then the community could choose. Such a process would be a boon to the community and project - by keeping the design page attractive and user friendly. If people want to play with alternate page layouts, that is great and can be done better done on alternate design subpages where compromises and choices can be worked out. The wiki free form process on the main design page would be there -- supplemented by some planning subpages for more focused discussion of examples. [[User:Doug|Doug]] 01:32, 20 August 2006 (UTC) | | :: I've added it, now that arab wikiversity has its own site. --[[User:Darklama|<span style="background:DarkSlateBlue;color:white;padding:2px;"> dark</span>]][[User talk:Darklama|<span style="background:darkslategray;color:white;padding:2px;">lama </span>]] 17:54, 12 July 2011 (UTC) |
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| I have a problem with calling one of the schools "Professions". Professions can be found in all the other schools!! Also, I feel that Education should be one of the major Schools.--[[User:Ningbojoe|Ningbojoe]] 06:03, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
| | == Operation system for phones. '''Wikiversity Building Tools:''' Smart phones/Touch screens--[[User:Gaon Yincang Abhinava|Gaon Abhinava]] 04:08, 29 July 2011 (UTC) == |
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| : I thought the same thing about "professions" when I was editing some of content of that subsection. A more appropriate label for that category will surely pop up sometime. :) Education could be one of the Schools. So could others. I expect the list may grow longer... :) [[User:Doug|Doug]] 01:32, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
| | In my opinion, iOS is the best smart phone operating system because it offers elegance and simple lifestyle. |
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| == What's the aim of Wikiversity? ==
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| I don't understand, what is the difference between Wikiversity and Wikibooks? Under [[meta:Wikiversity/Modified project proposal]] I learn, that it is about learning about a topic (Wikiversity) and reading about a topic (Wikibooks). But this "difference" seems a bit made-up to me. Wikibooks at the moment features the book [[wikibooks:Movie Making Manual]]. A how-to on movie making. What would be the difference to a course "film making" or "movie making" on Wikiversity? Okay, I see that a Wikiversity maybe would have a slightly other focus on some aspects, but is it useful to create two independant projects? I can't think, that this was not a topic already before, so please point me to the discussion (but if it is a typical endless wiki discussion, I would be happy if you could give an outline of the main arguments, that were crucial to the decide). --[[User:84.143.6.71|84.143.6.71]] 19:55, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :Just take some time here and relax for a moment. Yes, this was a major criticism to the proposal, although if you look at [[b:Wikibooks:Votes for deletion/Wikiversity]] you will see at least some of the justifications to delete Wikiversity in the first place, and also see some replies and rebuttals at [[meta:Wikiversity/Vote/en]]. This is certainly an issue that has been rehashed multiple times and deserves FAQ level answers. --[[User:Robert Horning|Robert Horning]] 23:34, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
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| ::Compare [[Wikibooks:Wikibooks:What is Wikibooks|What is Wikibooks]] to [[meta:Wikiversity/Modified project proposal|Wikiversity project proposal]]. The content of Wikibooks is textbooks. The content of Wikiversity does not include textbooks. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 03:11, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :::It is of course possible to fork an FDL book and add features that the Wikibook's project has decided it will not allow authors to use. For example, extensive links within text materials. They have decided they wish to be closer to formal textbooks easy to make print ready than online sets of notes. Extensive problem sets or quizzes. In line clickable animation or audio or analysis programs or other electronic extenstions available to a properly equipped computer via data on same CD or the internet. An example would be an enginneering text with clickable access to stress/thermal analysis finite element packages or other numerical methods. [[User:Mirwin|Mirwin]] 02:48, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
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| | Use the Tools, Learn anywhere as long as you have a phone, grow your mind.... and help build ''Wikiversity''.--[[User:Gaon Yincang Abhinava|Gaon Abhinava]] 04:08, 29 July 2011 (UTC) |
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| MIT has a program known as OCW(Open Course Ware) which provides course materials online for nearly all of the courses currently offered at MIT and for a select few courses even includes video lectures. I was wondering if anyone was aware of whether or not it would be possible to integrate these already available resources into the Wikiversity project? I feel that it would be a waste of time, that could be better spent on improving and supplementing these resources, to recreate them. [[User:Mos87|Mos87]]
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| :It is unfortunate but MIT's OCW program is under a special MIT license that is incompatible with the GNU FDL we are using. MIT is giving away the free use of the material via the Internet. It is not allowing others to download and modify the materials as they see fit. We can however use the materials at MIT for research and then include any distilled understanding of the subject gained here at Wikiverisity as long as the user is careful to use his own wording, examples, creativity to express the understanding gained at MIT's web site. [[User:Mirwin|Mirwin]] 06:44, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
| | i've noticed that (at least) the icon links to other wikimedia projects at the bottom of the Wikiversity main page are not <nowiki>{{sec link auto|...}}</nowiki> type links, so someone using the https version of the projects gets directed back to the http version. This is a bug IMHO. <strike>The [[:w:Template:sec link auto]] and its subtemplates should be copied here - there should hopefully be some efficient sysadmin way of doing that instead of requiring editors to do it by hand - i hope... i seem to remember copying these by hand for Wikibooks...</strike> [[User:Boud|Boud]] 08:23, 21 June 2011 (UTC) |
| | :It seems to be me who already ''did'' copy the template and its dependencies here :P. E.g. {{sec link auto|w|Minkowski space|Minkowski space}} links to the Wikipedia Minkowski space article. What is missing is to actually use these... [[User:Boud|Boud]] 18:57, 23 June 2011 (UTC) |
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| Why cannot Wikiversity give a certificate or start a certificate or diploma program on its own?
| | == main page layout borked == |
| The students can view the content, read it, download books, after that the exams should be conducted. That is what I feel | | The layout of the main page seems to have broken - there is extra whitespace at the top, the text of 'welcome to wikiversity' is wrapping, and the lower-right side of the there-column layout is overflowing onto the bottommost div. A recent change perhaps? viewed in chrome. <span style="padding:0 2px 0 2px;background-color:white;color:#bbb;">–[[User:Sj|SJ]][[User Talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f90;">+</font>]]</span> 21:06, 10 July 2011 (UTC) |
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| == Main page mission statement ==
| | : Looks fine here, but I do believe the layout is fragile and can easily break across web browsers and window widths. I think the main page should be redesigned. --[[User:Darklama|<span style="background:DarkSlateBlue;color:white;padding:2px;"> dark</span>]][[User talk:Darklama|<span style="background:darkslategray;color:white;padding:2px;">lama </span>]] 12:50, 12 July 2011 (UTC) |
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| : ''Create and host open-content, multimedia learning materials and resources, for all age groups in all languages''
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| Isn't this the mission statement for Wikibooks? Is there a link to the resolution from the board? - [[m:Amgine|Amgine]] 22:11, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
| | Is it possible to add a link to a Youtube-movie? Which code should you use? [[User:Timboliu|Timboliu]] 11:50, 7 August 2011 (UTC) |
| | :You may add a link to any external page, as long as it is not globally blacklisted. (If it's blacklisted, the link may be whitelisted here, any custodian can help with that.) As to the kind of Youtube links that display a video image, I don't know. To add a link to a page, you may copy the URL from your browser bar and place it. It will automatically display as a link, using the full URL. However, if you want it to display instead with some text, place it after an open bracket ("["), then add a space, the text you want, and then a close bracket. ("]"). For example, |
| | :*<nowiki>http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Main_Page</nowiki> |
| | :displays as http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Main_Page |
| | :*<nowiki>[http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Main_Page]</nowiki> |
| | :displays as [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Main_Page] |
| | :*<nowiki>[http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Main_Page Our Main Page]</nowiki> |
| | :displays as [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Main_Page Our Main Page] |
| | :--[[User:Abd|Abd]] 12:26, 7 August 2011 (UTC) |
| | :: Thanks for the info. Does anyone know how to add a video image? [[User:Timboliu|Timboliu]] ([[User talk:Timboliu|talk]]) 19:56, 5 November 2012 (UTC) |
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| : Yes, here: [[Wikimedia:Resolution Wikiversity|Wikimedia Foundation approval of the project]]
| | == Edit request from BrandonSkyHTFFan04, 13 March 2012 == |
| : The statement you quote reflects part of the mission of Wikiversity. Another major part of the mission is to create learning communities. As I understand it, Wikiversity projects can be partly based on Wikibooks in the same way that Wikibooks are sometimes partly based on Wikipedia articles. However, Wikiversity can be much more than a collection of curricula; it can be a network of learning communities, a creative university/multiversity without walls. --[[User:Doug|Doug]] 00:01, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
| | Change "To learn more, try a guided tour or start editing now" to "To learn more about Wikiversity, try a guided tour or start editing now". |
| | [[User:BrandonSkyHTFFan04|BrandonSkyHTFFan04]] ([[User talk:BrandonSkyHTFFan04|talk]]) 13:45, 13 March 2012 (UTC) |
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| ::No. The effective mission of the Wikibooks project is to create <b>textbooks</b>. A lot of other material people have typed in is routinely archived and deleted or perhaps merely deleted. I am curious Amgine. Do you intend to participate here at Wikiversity or do you view yourself as an interested Wikimedia Foundation member playing hall monitor to make sure we conform strictly to the letter of the approved proposal? Are you a regular at Wikibooks concerned that we may host ebooks and other online materials that Wikibooks declines to host as outside their narror definition of what someone may use as a textbook or learning reference manual? [[User:Mirwin|Mirwin]] 02:52, 18 August 2006 (UTC) | | :So sorry the change took until now to implement. It's done. --[[User:HappyCamper|HappyCamper]] ([[User talk:HappyCamper|talk]]) 05:51, 13 April 2012 (UTC) |
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| There are 4 white guys (yes?) in the banner at the top of the main page: [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/Wikiversite-banner.jpg]. That won't do. Please fix. --[[User:Doug|Doug]] 03:52, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
| | Hi, I am Aries Eroles. I am a seafarer by profession. I noticed that there is no school for Maritime studies. Would I add a new page of it? Or is it included in other schools? |
| :Yes. And one of them is holding a big stick and pointing his finger :-) Thanks for raising this, Doug. [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] 10:35, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
| | [[User:Aries Eroles|Aries Eroles]] ([[User talk:Aries Eroles|talk]]) 14:48, 24 April 2012 (UTC) |
| ::Actually, I think it's a quill, rather than a stick - but I still advocate a better image for the main page - something more along the lines of "learning together". [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] 11:22, 16 August 2006 (UTC) | | : Hi Aries - Welcome. I think you should feel to go ahead and create [[Maritime studies]] and/or [[School:Maritime studies]] and/or [[Topic:Maritime studies]] - start wherever you like. Sincerely, James -- [[User:Jtneill|Jtneill]] - <small>[[User talk:Jtneill|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Jtneill|c]]</small> 15:18, 24 April 2012 (UTC) |
| :::Maybe a simple stylized image of a galaxy would work -- this being in part a metaphor for many bright lights shining and living together and also a metaphor for exploring the universe? Until a banner more representative and less male and euro-centric (which only fits maybe 10% of the global population) is created, is a banner needed? Is one needed at all? Also, I question the use of a graduation hat as the WV logo if the statement of what WV is not includes not granting degrees. Perhaps a galaxy could be a logo option for WV. [[User:Doug|Doug]] 13:24, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
| | : You may want to have a look into [[Topic:Maritime strategy]], [[School:Strategic studies]], [[Topic:War]], and [[Topic:Peace studies]] --[[User:Darklama|<span style="background:DarkSlateBlue;color:white;padding:2px;"> dark</span>]][[User talk:Darklama|<span style="background:darkslategray;color:white;padding:2px;">lama </span>]] 16:16, 24 April 2012 (UTC) |
| ::::Oh yes, the logo is wrong - I just put something there as a placeholder (to replace Wikipedia's logo, which was there originally), with the full intention of opening a logo contest to decide our ''real'' identity :-). There have already been a few suggestions - so maybe we should get going on it soon - I know my girlfriend is keen to have a go. As for the banner image, no, we don't ''need'' one - though images are useful - I'll pooch around for something better.. [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] 16:14, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :::::Yah, some graphic or photo would be nice up top. What you have now is better. It might be hard to find a banner that makes everyone happy by various criteria. A pluralistic option: Perhaps we could rotate (even automate the rotation) of the top graphic amongst a dozen or two dozen photos (or more) of people from different cultures in schooling/learning/research contexts -- one could have a blurb about the inclusive nature of wikiversity and reaching out to many contexts -- off and online. A logo contest soon sounds good. [[User:Doug|Doug]] 16:45, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
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| ::::::Interesting. How do we know they are "white"? My impression was Spanish from about the 1600s. Conquistadors learning how to get to the "New World". By all means pick something politically correct for China and North Korea. Maybe a CD or IC under the arm of a scholar escaping from Alexandria burning? Maybe the scholar could be plugging a light fiber into the internet? [[User:Mirwin|Mirwin]] 02:58, 18 August 2006 (UTC) | |
| :::::::Perhaps someone knows the identities of the persons in the orginal picture but I couldn't be sure -- that is why I wrote "yes?" with a question mark above. We can't be sure they are all guys either -- another reason I wrote "yes?". But, something that looks like it could be 4 white people who happen to be all guys (yes? no?) sends the wrong message. I hope we have a community process to develop and pick a graphic. [[User:Doug|Doug]] 01:42, 20 August 2006 (UTC) | |
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| I'll have to say that this is something that needs to be fixed again, as the current image is something that is for a classroom in South Africa and it doesn't make it all that clear. Of course, we could do a "rotating" image that would have something from different regions of the world that would rotate in and out depending on the day of the week. That might show a little more diversity anyway. Kinda like the "pic of the day" images. --[[User:Robert Horning|Robert Horning]] 04:18, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :I see this as early ranging fire lacking proven ballistic analog computers. A few more attempts and we should start tweaking newcomer's interests .... say that could me in that picture! [[User:Mirwin|Mirwin]] 06:47, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
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| | The picture of major scales is not comprehensive. It should also have the "flat" keys like F major.--[[User:Jasper Deng|Jasper Deng]] ([[User talk:Jasper Deng|talk]]) 03:30, 26 April 2012 (UTC) |
| Uh, why move this page? It's the *Main Page* :-) [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] 16:00, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :I moved it to keep the purposes of the namespaces clear. If the main namespace is meant for learning and research materials, Main Page doesn't really fit into it. -- [[User:sebmol|sebmol]] [[User talk:sebmol|<sup>?</sup>]] 16:33, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
| | --[[User:Marie92|Marie92]] ([[User talk:Marie92|talk]]) 22:35, 2 August 2012 (UTC)In this course we will be studying from the book: “Social Psychology – 11th Edition; by: Robert A Baron, Donn Byrne, and Nyla R. Branscombe. |
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| :I think it is only by historical tradition that wiki main pages are in the main namespace. The idea of having an introductory main page came before the idea of having a project namespace to hold the meta-pages about the project. I support having the main page be in a "meta namespace" such as the wikiversity namespace. Technically, I wonder if the main page should be thought of as a portal. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 16:39, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
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| ::By having [[Main Page]] as a redirect, we are automatically making practically everyone entering the project coming into a redirect. I just don't think that's good design. Yes, the main page is many things - a portal, a meta page - but, most importantly, it is an ''introduction'' to the project. Why immediately scupper the design of the page by keeping to a strict plan of what a particular namespace is? *No* other project has a redirect from [[Main Page]] - and I don't think it's purely an historical thing either. [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] 17:06, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
| | Under the community section, it says "you can join our Wikiversity's IRC channel" --- should it be "...join ''Wikiversity's'' IRC channel" or "...join ''our'' IRC channel" ? [[User:Kierkkadon|Kierkkadon]] ([[User talk:Kierkkadon|talk]]) 14:00, 16 January 2013 (UTC) |
| :::What redirect? It's fixed. ;-) -- [[User:sebmol|sebmol]] [[User talk:sebmol|<sup>?</sup>]] 17:20, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
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| ::::No, I mean, that you see underneath the page title: "Redirected from [[Main Page]]" - I just don't think it looks good. [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] 17:29, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :::::You shouldn't see that anymore. Try entering just the URL or click on the image on the left. It should go straight to Wikiversity:Main Page without redirect. -- [[User:sebmol|sebmol]] [[User talk:sebmol|<sup>?</sup>]] 17:30, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
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| ::::::Ah, so it is :-) [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] 17:37, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :::::::So it's ok? -- [[User:sebmol|sebmol]] [[User talk:sebmol|<sup>?</sup>]] 17:39, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
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| ::::::::That redirect sign is back, by the way - not sure if it's something to do with the vandalism.. [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] 07:39, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
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| Maybe the "redirect sign" is seen if you came from [[Main Page]] to [[Wikiversity:Main Page]]. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 09:10, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :What I mean by the redirect sign is simply the words "redirected from [[Main Page]]", which I get when I type http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Main_Page into a browser (or follow that link, which I've bookmarked). I wonder how it is for people coming in on a link from any of our sister projects..? [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] 09:41, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
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| ::If they come through http://en.wikiversity.org/ they won't see a Redirect. If on a sister project the link is made like this: <code><nowiki>[[v:]]</nowiki></code>, they will also not see the redirect. I would suggest you adjust your browser so that it links to http://en.wikiversity.org/ with nothing after the slash. -- [[User:sebmol|sebmol]] [[User talk:sebmol|<sup>?</sup>]] 09:47, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :::Ok, will do. Back to dissertation-land for me :-) [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] 09:53, 19 August 2006 (UTC) | |
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| == no www.wikiversity.org yet == | | == Wikiversity in korean == |
| FYI: There's no http://www.wikiversity.org yet... [[:tr:Kullanıcı:Katpatuka|Katpatuka]]11:00, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
| | Can you please add the '''korean wikiversity''' interwiki to '''"In other languages"'''. It was already approved.--[[User:Biólogo conservacionista|Biólogo conservacionista]] ([[User talk:Biólogo conservacionista|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Biólogo conservacionista|contribs]]) 02:17, 25 April 2013 (UTC) |
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| :I think Brion or other technical developers will need to fix this, the page has been a domain name placeholder for at least a year so it predates our database wiki. He may be waiting for a preliminary logo. I suggest we request an immediate fix using the mortar board logo in the center with various languages around it as in the www.wikipedia.org portal. It seems good enough while we wait for logo designers to show and have a competition. [[User:Mirwin|Mirwin]] 03:04, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
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| | Probably not, although if you can demonstrate a pattern of future editing in strict accordance with our [[Wikipedia:neutral point of view|neutral point of view]] policy, you ''may'' be granted this right. See [[WP:FAQ/Organizations|Wikipedia's FAQ for Organizations]] for a helpful list of frequently asked questions by people in your position. Also, review the [[WP:Conflict of interest|conflict of interest guidance]] to see the kinds of limitations you would have to obey if you did want to continue editing about your company, group, organization, or clients. If this does not fit in with your goals, then you will not be allowed to edit again. |
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| == Vandalism ==
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| Due to a wayward idiot, this page (the main page, not the talk page) is now being semi-protected against edits by anonymous users. I would imagine after a couple of weeks when this pages gets settled down that there will be no major reason to continue to edit this page, and it will turn to sysop-only edit protection.
| | If you have no interest in writing about some other topic than your organization, group, company, or product, you will probably not be allowed to edit Wikipedia again. Consider using [[WP:Alternative outlets|one of the many websites]] that allow this instead. |
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| If there are problems that you experience with editing the main page, please drop a line here and let us know what you want to see changed. --[[User:Robert Horning|Robert Horning]] 04:32, 18 August 2006 (UTC) | |
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| == ERROR on front page ==
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| I registered for an account but cannot edit the front page. There is an error in the link to subscribe to the wikiversity mailing list. The URL should be:
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| p.s. I created the first draft of the Wikiversity front page like two years ago. I had to quit working on it while I finished my phd, but I'm glad this project finally got approved and I hope to contribute to it. [[User:DouglasHolton|DouglasHolton]] 16:44, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
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| :I fixed it. Thanks for the hint. I'm looking forward to your contributions. -- [[User:sebmol|sebmol]] [[User talk:sebmol|<sup>?</sup>]] 18:29, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
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| == Link to DE ==
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| Can you change the link to DE from [http://de.wikiversity.org/wiki/Hauptseite Deutsch] to [[:de:Hauptseite|Deutsch]]?
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| I think the second way looks better.
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| -- [[User:MichaelFrey|MichaelFrey]] 17:11, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :I fixed all of the links from external to internal links. I agree, they look better that way. I think I messed up the Japanese link, so if anybody knows where in ja.wikibooks the Japanese Wikiversity pages are, it would be appreciated. --[[User:Robert Horning|Robert Horning]] 06:12, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
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| ::Thanks :-) -- [[User:MichaelFrey|MichaelFrey]] 18:04, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
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| == Languages without content ==
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| ...include Esperanto, Netherlands, and Japanese. Should they be taken off the main page? I don't see any use for them over any other languages that have no content. [[User:219.255.192.201|219.255.192.201]] 19:02, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
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| == Welcoming Committee ==
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| Do we have a welcoming committee here yet? If not, how should one be started? (Or, alternately, would it be appropriate to start one?) --[[User:Qwerty|Qwerty]] 00:28, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :Please start [[Wikiversity:Welcoming committee|welcoming committee]]. There is this: <nowiki>{{Template:Welcome}}</nowiki> --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 21:45, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
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| == What is up with this skin? ==
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| What's up with the rounded edges of this skin? It totally does not fit in with any of the other English Wikimedia projects. It looks plain ridiculous, especially since the rounded edges are not anti-aliased. I believe that it should be changed back to normal. [[User:85.147.58.212|85.147.58.212]] 21:41, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :Each Wikimedia project determines its look separately. If you do not like the rounded edges, you are free to register and adjust your Monobook.css. -- [[User:sebmol|sebmol]] [[User talk:sebmol|<sup>?</sup>]] 21:44, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
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| ::Ah, so you're the admin who made the change, I see. So instead of actually taking the time to discuss this change with me, you simply say "shut up and make your own exclusive override if you want to". This is terrible! You just made this change because you like it, and you don't seem to care about the fact that square edges have become the standard across almost all Wikimedia projects. What is your reason to do this? What do rounded corners add, besides your personal opinion of design? I am a graphic designer and I cannot fathom what rounded corners could possibly add. All they do is show how utterly clueless browsers are at rendering rounded corners. It's all jaggy and aliased, and there are even a few "gaps" in there. Anyway, if you really like this change, then it's okay to add it as you're legally entitled to do so (as admin) but please at least have the decency to discuss it rather than just telling people to go make their own override. [[User:85.147.58.212|85.147.58.212]] 21:48, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :::I do have the decency to discuss it. But if you're already making the point that it looks "plain ridiculous", what's the point of dicussion? You have not made any contributions to this project yet you feel the need to call something that meets the consensus of the project ridiculous. If you expect AGF, you have to start by asking, not judging. -- [[User:sebmol|sebmol]] [[User talk:sebmol|<sup>?</sup>]] 21:53, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :::P.S. Rounded corners do exist in Wikimedia projects, Wikiversity is certainly not the only one. It's also been around for a few days without anybody complaining. Rather the opposite. -- [[User:sebmol|sebmol]] [[User talk:sebmol|<sup>?</sup>]] 21:53, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
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| ::::I just gave you plenty of reasons if you'll read my previous message.
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| ::::#Jaggy edges
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| ::::#Not the standard (consistency is important for Mediawiki as a whole)
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| ::::#Not the way the Monobook skin was meant to look
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| ::::I have not contributed to this project yet (I did vote for it to be started, though) but I believe that there is no problem with me pointing out what I believe to be a problem of this site. In a way, that is contributing as well. Also, you tell me one single other English Wikimedia project that also has rounded edges. There are none. This was my point. I realize there are ''non-English'' Wikimedia projects that do. I also cannot see how this decision can prevail in the long run, seen as how the other Wikimedia projects are ''much'' larger than this one, and any attempt to add rounded corners there would immediately be rejected via the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:SNOWBALL Snowball clause]. [[User:85.147.58.212|85.147.58.212]] 21:58, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :::::you are right, they are ugly. Still, that's not the end of the world, or even this project. If this is going to fly, there will be more than enough people to talk it over anyway, at length (and as soon as there are, the round corners will go out the window of course), and if it isn't, nobody will care about it anyway. [[User:83.78.187.95|83.78.187.95]] 22:38, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
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| ::::::I don't even know what these rounded corners ''are'' - I've never seen any difference between all other WMF projects. What skin are you talking about? But please, whoever you are, don't get discouraged from discussing changes - for general issues, please bring them up on the [[Wikiversity:Colloquium]]. Thanks. [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] 12:05, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
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| [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]], view the wiki in a Mozilla-based browser like Firefox. You'll see that the global CSS has been edited to force tab and box corners to be rounded, among other things. '''[[User:Robchurch|robchurch]]''' | [[User_talk:Robchurch|talk]] 12:10, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
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| – [[User:Gurch|Gurch]] 10:54, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
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| == Welcome page ==
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| I've just created [[Wikiversity:Welcome, newcomers]] and i suggest it be linked to in the Main Page title, just as the other projects are. Can an admin please do this? - [[User:Trevor MacInnis|Trevor MacInnis]] 22:31, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :Done. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 22:41, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
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| == Logo ==
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| Lose the "Beta" from the logo. Wiki-based projects are by definition never finished, so "beta" labels are unnecessary. (We might as well label all the projects "beta" if they were). Also, I'm sure there must be a better colour than bright blue to use for the name. Black, or Wikimedia grey, perhaps? – [[User:Gurch|Gurch]] 10:39, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :The board decided, that this project is in beta mode for 6 months so we can't really just get rid of it. The logo is indeed not the best one I've ever seen; we're planning on having a logo competition soon however. -- [[User:sebmol|sebmol]] [[User talk:sebmol|<sup>?</sup>]] 11:00, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
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| ::Can someone please organise this logo contest? Meta [[m:Logo]] is probably the best place. Thanks. (FWIW, I agree that the current logo is bad - for more reasons than just the colours.) Oh, and yes, the "beta" should be there for the beginning, as it was for Wikinews in its beta phase. Also agreed that the same could still be done for Wikipedia ;-) [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] 12:00, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
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| ::I've changed the logo (with a bit of help) - though this should not stop us from making a new one. Please continue... [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] 12:50, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :::Those colours are definitely better – thanks Cormaggio. A logo design discussion is now underway at '''[[m:Wikiversity/logo]]''', submit any ideas there – [[User:Gurch|Gurch]] 12:26, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
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| ==New page layout?==
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| This looks better: [[User:Trevor MacInnis/MainPage]], hit it on a random page--[[User:134.48.245.4|134.48.245.4]] 21:41, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :Not sure. I think some of the elements of this revised page are interesting but the bold orange colors and rounded graphics don't appeal to my eye. [[User:Reswik|Reswik]] 01:46, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
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| ::I've changes to more muted colors, is that any better? - [[User:Trevor MacInnis|Trevor MacInnis]] 15:15, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :::This looks better. I like some of the ways you have rearranged things. Other things probably could be adjusted. Some suggestions -->
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| *Drop the entire services section and just have a link -- too much content
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| *Put Other areas above Library and rename Other areas to something like "Communications and Community"
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| *Try a version without the little icons in the middle column. not sure abou those.
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| This is good work. I wonder what others think. Thanks, [[User:Reswik|Reswik]] 15:54, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :Ps. I was thinking today that it would be interesting to turn the main page text blocks into templates. Then we might be able to design different skins, fitting in the templates (with a few template alternates perhaps) as needed. Then, the skins can be options for viewing the current template content. What do you think? Heck, folks could design their own skins and portals -- many of them. We could vote on what skin to be default at any one time. [[User:Reswik|Reswik]] 23:55, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
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| ::I've implemented your comments, and the text block skin is basically what I'm doing with the page (see:[[Template:TrevorMainPageBox]]). - [[User:Trevor MacInnis|Trevor MacInnis]] 03:18, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :::I did not like it at first. It was a bit garish to my eye and I could not easily find stuff I was previously using. I noticed that after I systematically located the old links I was depending on <b>knowing</b> where they were then the whole thing settled in nicely. The old one looks drab now! lol <b>Nice work!</b> [[User:Mirwin|Mirwin]] 06:56, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :::I think this is a very nice design. Let's implement the text block templates so we can have option to use more than one skin -- if no one objects -- guess we can go back if they do. With more tweaking and polish, I think the very plain current design and your colorful and creative design can both improve further. However, '''I think we could upload your design now without a vote, if no one objects.''' I think I'll mention that as a 24 hour thing for feedback. OK? [[User:Reswik|Reswik]] 18:06, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
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| ::::Ooops, I think the other language versions of Wikiversity were left out of your design (unless I missed them). But, those are easy enough to add. I'm doing so at bottom of your design page. Below, I made a new post to call for approval to upload your design soon. [[User:Reswik|Reswik]] 18:17, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :A non-table Layout: [[de:Hauptseite|click here]]
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| ==Move main page content to subpages?==
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| I think there is too much information on the front page: 4 screen fulls.
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| I reorganized some of the content on the main page. We could reduce content by putting the "Services" section (which is too long for front page) and moving the "Background and Proposals" section to separate pages. Then, we can put links on the front page to those. This would get down to about 3 screen fulls. [[User:Reswik|Reswik]] 01:46, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :I made the edits suggested here and created the 2 new subpages. I think this improves the front page. With editing work, I think the presentation of the information on the subpages will much improve. [[User:Reswik|Reswik]] 03:49, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
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| ::I think the morphing and move of the "Background and Proposals" main page sub-section into a new [[Wikiversity:History of Wikiversity]] page (linked on main page) has some potential for generating insight and involvement. It ''only'' needs a good intro and a story line. [[User:Reswik|Reswik]] 04:04, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
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| Are we going to create an equivalent of the catchy-but-cheesy-yet-perhaps-useful slogan that they have in Wikipedia? Yes, I am talking about a “Welcome to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit” kind of thing. An obvious advantage of something like that is to remove some of the pressure already placed on defying the mission of wikiversity. Maybe a combination of a good graphic logo, a banner along the lines of “the free encyclopedia”, and a promotional slogan just like “that anyone can edit” could help in clarifying what this thing is all about. After all, many universities out there have silly Latin mottos and they even put them on t-shirts. Perhaps we should include banner proposals in the logo contest. What do you think?[[User:Aldenis|Aldenis]] 23:56, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :'''Refine Wikiversity mission <--> Develop slogan/motto'''. We are working on the first step of this here -- the idea is first to refine our mission statement, from which and on the basis of which then we will all together try various slogans/mottos: '''[[Wikiversity: Wikiversity mission]]'''. But, perhaps this is to complex. Refining might be something we can do in tandem (hence the double arrow above <-->) -- perhaps by writing up a bunch of very short mission statements and then both translating those into slogans and refining mission through insights. Whatever works! Feel free to dive in there to try that... I was thinking of inviting people to lob short missions/slogans onto that page. [[User:Reswik|Reswik]] 00:24, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
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| A suggestion for Wikiversity motto "Opening minds through open learning". [[User:Mos87|Mos87]]
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| :Howabout: "Reasonably free thinking, freely pursued." or "Free thinkers learn free." or "Pursue free thinking freely." or we could request Wikibooks find a new and use theirs: "Learn free, think free." or to further confuse the ongoing "but what is Wikiversity exactly" issue we could go with: "Think freely, but learn free." or howabout: "Free wiki mentors, learn freely." [[User:Mirwin|Mirwin]] 07:13, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
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| ::Well, the revise the mission page is not working so far -- so perhaps we need a motto contest page, as suggested in the post below. [[User:Reswik|Reswik]] 13:33, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
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| ==[[Wikiversity:Motto contest|Motto and slogan contest]]==
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| Please list your suggestions for mottos and slogans here: '''[[Wikiversity:Motto contest|Motto and slogan contest]]'''.
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| The short motto will go with our logo (yet to be chosen) for listing on wikimedia sister projects. The slogan or descriptive phrase will go on the top of our main page with "Welcome to Wikiversity."
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| A simple contest process is suggested:
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| *list as many mottos and slogans as you wish
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| *feel free to change vote and add mottos at any time.
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| *winners are the motto and the slogan with strong majority of votes. (there may need to be a run off if a strong majority is not achieved).
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| *voting ends in 15 days: 5:00 pm GMT September 7, 2006.
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| We may use ideas from the motto and slogan contest to help refine the '''[[Wikiversity: Wikiversity mission|Wikiversity mission]]'''. Feel free to post mission statement revisions there too.
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| --[[User:Reswik|Reswik]] 13:32, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
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| == Main page ==
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| Can we protect the image that is on the main page as well? --[[User:HappyCamper|HappyCamper]] 17:38, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
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| ==New page design==
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| Trevor has done extensive work to create a very nice design for the main page, moved to new page: [[Wikiversity:Main_Page/Design]] (old page [[User:Trevor MacInnis/MainPage]]) . It could still be tweaked but it is better than what we have. (See original discussions above in "new page format") Shall we take a quick head count on using the new design -- 24 to 48 hours? Enough time for sense of no objections? [[User:Reswik|Reswik]] 18:14, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
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| Do you support or oppose using this design on the front page: [[Wikiversity:Main Page/Design]] (new location)?
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| *{{pro}} -- tweaking needed; can go up; design 2 has more code cleanup done so prefer that [[User:Reswik|Reswik]] 18:14, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
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| *{{pro}} - Sure. Looks great, why not? This is a new place, should be able to experiment with a few things. --[[User:HappyCamper|HappyCamper]] 20:08, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
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| *{{pro}} I would prefer larger fonts across the board. Scrolling is better than squinting. However, it does provide a crisp image of professional design and will no doubt continue to evolve. [[User:Mirwin|Mirwin]] 04:20, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
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| *{{pro}} I like it; very unique, but also clean and functional. There are some minor usability issues, but I'm sure they could easily be resolved. --[[User:Aepex|Aepex]] 06:17, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
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| *{{contra}}. I support Trevor's efforts, but this design isn't ready for implementation. (Please see [[User talk:Trevor MacInnis/MainPage]] for some of my objections.) It has the potential to evolve into something better, but it would be a mistake to rush it onto the main page before it's ready. (I'm not saying that it can't be tweaked after it goes live, but it should be further along than this.) —[[User:David Levy|David Levy]] 07:29, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
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| * It's definitely better than the current Main Page, but I think it could do with some tweaking. I don't like that overlapping globe thing, for a start – [[User:Gurch|Gurch]] 12:31, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
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| *{{pro}} - Great work! Think marketing guys, a great design like his can enhance user experience thus attracting more users and make people more willing to contribute. [[User:Rayshan|Rayshan]] 14:14, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
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| * Like Gurch, I don't like the overlapping globe, nor the overlapping boxes. I feel like there are too many boxes, and this moves away from my vision of Wikiversity, which in my minds aims at being user-friendly and intuitive. Well done for your work however. [[User:Guillom|guillom]] 14:36, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
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| *{{pro}} - Wikiversity is still too small to have something like the wikipedia main page redesign. If you don't like it, work up your own design. I think we all can agree this is better the the present one.--[[User:Rayc|Rayc]] 02:05, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :*No, not ''all'' of us agree that it's better. The issue of aesthetics is subjective (and I'm clearly outnumbered on that front), but the time/date stamp feature is sometimes '''broken''' (due to caching), and I guarantee that the text is more difficult for people with visual impairments to read. (This is an area in which I have some degree of expertise.) Accessibility is of the utmost importance, and I'd like to think that it would be considered before any new design is rushed into use (even if it looks good to most people). The current design isn't flashy, but it's quite functional. Can we please not take a step back in this regard? The problems that I've cited can be addressed (and I truly see a great deal of potential for a nice design that sacrifices no usability), if only we can be slightly patient. —[[User:David Levy|David Levy]] 03:52, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :::I agree that usability is important. I think a few days of review is a good thing for a really new design, even in a good project. Trevor has tweaked the design. See below. [[User:Reswik|Reswik]] 13:13, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
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| *{{pro}} - I know I just joined, but I must say that from seeing the link to the design from the home page, I must say that it is quite nice for this site. It would really look well as it would show our own Wikiversity creativity, and not just use the standard setup.--[[User:Hd.G|Hd.G]] 06:04, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
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| *{{pro}} - better than current one. --[[User:Stevenfruitsmaak|Steven Fruitsmaak]] <small>([[User_talk:Stevenfruitsmaak|Talk]])</small> 16:18, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
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| *{{pro}} Awesome job! I love the colors and the concept! -[[User:Yorktown1776|Yorktown1776]] 16:32, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
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| ===Modified version===
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| Please post opinions regarding [[Wikiversity:Main Page/Design 2]]. Do you support or oppose its adoption, and how does it compare to the [[Wikiversity:Main Page/Design|original version]]?
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| *'''Note''': I'm aware of a minor display bug in Internet Explorer 6. (The image is off-center and lacks a right-hand border.) Please assume that this issue (which does not exist in Firefox or Opera) will be corrected when the code is refined. —[[User:David Levy|David Levy]] 09:59, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
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| *As they are now, I like [[Wikiversity:Main Page/Design 2]] slightly better than [[Wikiversity:Main Page/Design]]- even though "Design 2" is quite plain, it 'gels' nicely - looks seemless. If I had a (very minor) tweak, it would be to centre the Browse box text under the "Welcome to Wikiversity" - as well as changing the motto/byline (but that's being worked on elsewhere). Good work everyone :-) [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] 10:43, 26 August 2006
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| *{{pro}} -- On a discussion string on his talk page, David points out that he cleaned up template formats and CSS code in working on Design 2. For this reason, '''I think we should post Design 2'''. Once the usability issues are addressed in Design 2, I think it can be posted. I prefer a few design aspects of both versions. We can polish and negotiate design features over time. A few design issues: I think it is important to include a sizeable graphic or photo (which could have a link to a blurb about how that item relates to wikiversity) near the top in whatever design evolves. I would like to see more white space in the main top title box. I prefer the mix of blue/tan in heading bars in Design 1. I like a "menu" line centered under the main title box but a top right box menu can work too. [[User:Reswik|Reswik]] 17:27, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
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| *{{contra}} - I'm sorry guys but I have to say that the 1st design is better and here's why: The use of icons helps to make the content graphically stand out. Graphics could generally be comprehended faster than words alone. (Although I don't think all the icons correctly represent the content, such as the broom). As far as color and layout goes, 1st design nicely group sub-content together in "boxes", but it may sometimes look a little "too much". 2nd design looks a lot cleaner, but I recommend something between main content and "Wiki in other languages" so everything don't blend together with the background. Also how about making "Wiki in other languages" and "Sister projects" centered? [[User:66.177.92.226|66.177.92.226]] 17:36, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
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| ::thanks for points. I agree that some of design elements of Design 1 are more desirable (as I mention just above). But, we need to go with Design 2 code clean up or recreate that in Design 1. Perhaps it is easier to adjust graphic elements and reintroduce icons in design 2. Not sure. [[User:Reswik|Reswik]] 17:49, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
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| ::In modifying the design, I drew upon the comments expressed here and those expressed by literally hundreds of users during the English Wikipedia's main page redesign process. Over there, the use of icons (including these exact images) was rejected by a clear majority of respondents (many of whom noted that they created an "unprofessional" or "childish" appearance). As you noted, there is no strong connection between these images and the content that they accompany. They serve purely as decoration, ''not'' as navigational aids.
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| ::The non-stylized ''Wikiversity in other languages'' and ''Wikiversity's sister projects'' sections (present in both versions) reflect an overwhelming consensus that emerged during the aforementioned English Wikipedia discussion. The idea is to visually differentiate between the dynamic and static content.
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| ::Indeed, one of my goals was to make the design cleaner and easier to read (which also entailed the use of larger text), and I believe that I've succeeded. —[[User:David Levy|David Levy]] 18:08, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
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| *I like Design2, but didn't notice a link to the tour. Would be nice if one were added, or made starker if it's there. [[User:Dev920|Dev920]] 14:45, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
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| ::I've added the link. :) —[[User:David Levy|David Levy]] 15:17, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :::Thankyou. :D [[User:Dev920|Dev920]] 15:28, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
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| *{{pro}}: again, better than current one.--[[User:Stevenfruitsmaak|Steven Fruitsmaak]] <small>([[User_talk:Stevenfruitsmaak|Talk]])</small> 19:01, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
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| *{{pro}}: looks better than both the current one and option 1, and is more organized than option one.--[[User:Hd.G|Hd.G]] 03:48, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
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| *{{pro}}: It looks good to me. Thanks for larger text. [[User:Mirwin|Mirwin]] 06:57, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
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| *{{pro}}: i agree that design version 2 is clearer and more to the point (although i do like the wikitrek blurb in design 1) --[[User:Smithgrrl|Smithgrrl]] 16:52, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
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| *{{contra}}: The overlap between the blue and orange where the "About • Browse..." links are is bothering the hell out of me, probably because I'm a web designer. I would support if that were changed.--<b><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">[[User:Digitalme|<span style="color:gray;">digital</span>]]<span style="color:gray;">_</span>[[User_talk:Digitalme|<span style="color:red;">me</span>]]</span></b> 16:56, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
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| ::Were you thinking that we would have two separate columns, one blue and one orange (tan)? Or, were you thinking something like what is now on Design 2 -- a blue bar across the top. [[User:Reswik|Reswik]] 01:16, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :::I oppose either change (and I've reverted).
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| :::As I noted on your talk page, the logic behind my configuration is that readers tend to notice solid elements of the same color that they're already looking at. If the left side of the page is predominantly blue and the right side is predominantly tan, they'll be more likely to concentrate on one and ignore the other. By placing blue section headings below a tan header (and vice-versa), the users' eyes will naturally be drawn to both sides of the page.
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| :::One thing that became clear during the English Wikipedia's main page redesign process is that it usually isn't a good idea to rush to make major changes in response to a single criticism (especially when the status quo has generated generally positive comments). Nine times out of ten, you'll only end up upsetting more people than you please. :) —[[User:David Levy|David Levy]] 01:39, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
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| ::::The tan is drawing my eyes away from the main content, what we need is something to counterbalance it. Perhaps adding blue borders would help, but right now, the right side is too visually heavy.--<b><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">[[User:Digitalme|<span style="color:gray;">digital</span>]]<span style="color:gray;">_</span>[[User_talk:Digitalme|<span style="color:red;">me</span>]]</span></b> 02:34, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :::::Did you see what the page looked like with the all-blue header? The left side completely dominated. Then, with blue on the left and tan on the right, it looked like two isolated entities (with the left side still dominating because it's much wider).
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| :::::To me, the page looks fairly balanced now. If anything, the left side still stands out slightly more (because of the aforementioned width). —[[User:David Levy|David Levy]] 02:51, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
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| ::::::I think the current design looks better than the variations I explored last night. However, after trying to simplify the top, I think the approach of the new design in general has yielded looks that are too "busy" and distracting up top. If anyone wishes to play with the design, perhaps further work will resolve that. (I am not going to work on the design until after this passes). After this new design (which is certainly an improvement) is approved, I'm going to start working on further revisions on sandbox pages, perhaps variants of this design (or other another similar one), that have the masthead only across the top with two columns underneath. [[User:Reswik|Reswik]] 14:19, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
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| {{pro}}: I love the second page design. It looks wonderful and easy to organize new information into. It's inviting. [[User:OneWomanArmy|OneWomanArmy]] --[[User:OneWomanArmy|Diana]] 01:04, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
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| ===Comments===
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| *Summary of discussion (revised): '''This needs revisions for usability, then this can be posted.''' A strong majority would like to see this design posted (10 or 11 of 13, including 2 comments on Trevor's design talk page), and some say tweaking is needed first. Almost all would like to see the design tweaked somehow. In response to feedback, Trev has done extensive tweaking now, two rounds at least, including in response to above comments, to improve this. A few minor things remain to do. This is almost ready. ...
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| *A longish discussion string from here moved to: [[Wikiversity talk:Main Page/Design]].
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| *See section above for Design 2 comments. Please share your comments about design 2 above.
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| '''Feel free to adjust the design''':
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| *Trevor moved the current version of the design to: [[Wikiversity:Main_Page/Design]].
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| *Forked version of the design: [[Wikiversity:Main_Page/Design 2]]
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| :'''To do''':
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| :*[Done] The right column text still needs work.
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| :*[Done--problem found--see comment below] Can someone check usability in [[w:JAWS (screen reader)|JAWS]] or [[w:Window-Eyes|Window-Eyes]].
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| :* Can someone check readability in the Safari browser at various screen resolutions?
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| :Thanks, [[User:Reswik|Reswik]] 20:52, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
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| ::I've been attempting to adjust the design, but the style templates are making this very difficult for me. If Trevor (or someone else) could move most of the code into the page itself, it would be much easier to edit. I tried substituting some of the templates on a test page, but that broke much of the page. —[[User:David Levy|David Levy]] 21:19, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :::[We figured out how to work with the templates.] Due to right column text size issues, I think the right hand Communication blurbs needs to be edited into shorter length at each bullet point. [[User:Reswik|Reswik]] 21:31, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
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| *'''Problems found via [[w:JAWS (screen reader)|JAWS]] with new design''' -- these need to be addressed. See discussion on [[Wikiversity talk:Main Page/Design]]
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| *'''Graphic/photo issue''' -- Should there be a photo or graphic in the top right area of the new design page? (The current top page photo is there and needs to be resized and/or centered if it stays.)
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| * This is a comment that should be registered, but probably not acted on yet. The front page [http://checker.atrc.utoronto.ca/index.html fails] this accessibility checker - can we get a user familiar with accessibility issues to take a look at the new page and see if they can navigate through it? --[[User:HappyCamper|HappyCamper]] 15:12, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
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| *'''Contrast is disappearing''': Design 1 and 2 are converging in appearance (due to Trevor adopting some of David's revisions). Design 2 code is partly revised for usability issues and being revised further. [[User:Reswik|Reswik]] 15:58, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
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| *Don't forget to include the new stuff that was recently included on the orginal main page. The drafts are starting to become out of date.--[[User:Rayc|Rayc]] 04:57, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
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| == Strafing ==
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| If i understand right, the goal of this project is to teach a man all the things (positive ofc) possible. Look, and if I have some Defrag strafing (computer sport game) skills? Is it forbidden here to teach people such things? Thank you.
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| :I've no idea of what that game is, but I don't see a problem in uploading material that teaches people about how to play computer games - we haven't set policies yet on delineating our content (such as exists, for example, on Wikibooks). Just a side thought, but I think it would be really interesting to see what computer games can teach us about the world - if that could be developed, it could be a fantastic resource. [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] 19:32, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :: Oh, ok, thanks. I haven't played it for about a year, but i can ask world champion for it. Thanks!
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| ::: Or, you oculd be a stunt coodinator for [[Wikiversity the Movie]]. Great gameplaying skills put to good use!--[[User:Rayc|Rayc]] 01:54, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
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| And hopefully we can teach women too! I really get tired of the sexist language. It's so embedded in education as well as everything else. I can't be silent about it. It DOES matter. Already I feel excluded. No, the goal of this project is to share, collect and strive to educate human beings.[[User:OneWomanArmy]]--[[User:OneWomanArmy|Diana]] 01:09, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
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| :Absolutely. I feel terrible that you feel excluded. Of course it matters. I just didn't respond to this part of the sentence, because there were other things that the questioner (whoever he/she is) wanted to know about. But you're absolutely right to bring it up. Wikiversity is education for ''all''. [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] 14:57, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
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| ::I feel it important to note, in a pure and strict sense of education, that Latin is a root of English. The use of what appear to be masculine pronouns are also neuter pronouns based on context. Man, as in mankind, should not be misunderstood to mean only male humans, but the ''idea'' of all of humankind is expressed in that single word as best as possible. We shold also note that language begins verbally and becomes a written language after, logically but not necessarily chronologically as they can happen simultaneously. Some contexts provided druing speach may not be as easily communicated through written word. In any case, I don't think colloquial habits should be maligned, as over time any individual who increases in education naturally revises their use of language to an extent. To immediately highlight errors or discourteousness in the way in which a question is asked in lieu of adressing the content of question seems to me to be agaisnt the intent of Wikiversity. I also feel at this point that in order to not be misunderstood, I need to qualify that this is not not meant to be a personal attack of any kind nor truly a correction of previous behavior, but to highlight that a certain tolerance of each other will make the education process itself go more smoothly. And I hope we can all see that education will help each of us to refine ourselves from our current sate. [[User:Talonhawk|Talonhawk]] 01:40, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
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| == Portal Addition ==
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| I created a Fine Arts portal, and since the schools'll have (at the very least shells) functioning pages as soon as I get my 4 hours of sleep, I was wondering if someone with the access wouldn't mind putting the portal up amongst the other schools on the main page. +[[User:Bozaloshtsh|Bozaloshtsh]] 08:38, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
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| :done - [[User:Trevor MacInnis|Trevor MacInnis]] 16:06, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
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| ::Great, thanks. +[[User:Bozaloshtsh|Bozaloshtsh]] 16:19, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
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| == Favicon Suggestion ==
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| Your favicon is currenlty identical to wikipedia's... I keep links in my toolbar with only the icon, and I think having the hat would make more sense in any case. Just a random thought. ----[[User:68.222.136.209|68.222.136.209]] 12:04, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
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| :Yep, thanks, and fully agreed that we'll have to change that icon. We're currently in the process of changing our logo, though - details of which [[m:Wikiversity/logo|here]]. Maybe we should wait until that's decided? [[User:Cormaggio|Cormaggio]] 16:28, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
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| == Cooperation with Wikihowto==
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| I would like to invite everyone to cooperate with [http://howto.wikia.com/ Wikihowto]. I think we nead a way to make Wikihowto an Wikimedia project. Andi think Wikiversity could, maybe not replace Wikihowto, but at least evolve hand in hand. I think the both Wikiversity and Wikihowto are made to evolve together, don't you think? Please think about it if you do and tell other people about this two projects. (moa3333) [[User:80.236.113.58|80.236.113.58]] 12:01, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
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| hm... there is one of these (insert link to Wikihow)--[[User:24.208.123.129|24.208.123.129]] 01:38, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
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| :I made a link to Wikihowto at '''[[Educational Wikis]]'''. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 02:05, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
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| == I cant sign up! ==
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| It wont show me the security code, and i only see the dreaded little red x. :( --[[User:24.208.123.129|24.208.123.129]] 01:35, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Geobeedude
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| :Account creation seems to be working now. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 01:53, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
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| i still cant see the verification code.
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| :There must be something wrong on your end, because other continue to be able to sign up, and I just checked and saw the codeword. I suggest trying to create an account from another computer, after that you'll be able to login from home as normal. - [[User:Trevor MacInnis|Trevor MacInnis]] 00:40, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
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| ::Signups are working fine. I suggest you try accessing Wikipedia through a free web based proxy, as these may alter the image as it is passed on. --[[User:Draicone|<b>Draicone</b>]] [[User_talk:Draicone|<sup><span style="color: #FF9933;">(talk)</span></sup>]] 07:46, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
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| == [[Wikiversity:Vandal fighting unit]] ==
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| Similar to [[wikipedia:WP:CVU]], I've established this page to co-ordinate vandal fighting efforts (although I doubt this is very important right now). I'm a developer for [[wikipedia:WP:MWT]] and I intend to alter it slightly to work with Wikiversity. Input would be appreciated. --[[User:Draicone|<b>Draicone</b>]] [[User_talk:Draicone|<sup><span style="color: #FF9933;">(talk)</span></sup>]] 07:45, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
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| :Please take a moment to read [[WV:SHRINE]] before you consider starting a vandal fighting project here. -- [[User:sebmol|sebmol]] [[User talk:sebmol|<sup>?</sup>]] 16:06, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
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| ::I understand, and the goal of VFU is to identify vandalism, as once we reach a few thousands articles there will always be edits that go unnoticed. Any system established would include at least a couple of sysops and focus around recording vandalism attempts and reporting them to sysops (/custodians/admins/bureaucrats) so that appropriate action can be taken. --[[User:Draicone|<b>Draicone</b>]] [[User_talk:Draicone|<sup><span style="color: #FF9933;">(talk)</span></sup>]] 12:39, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
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| :::I appreciate your enthusiasm but I also want to point out that vandalism and dealing with it is not supposed to be a big deal. People report it or notice it, it gets taken care of, we move on. By creating pages like the VFU, we're just creating yet another place for vandals to feel like they get any attention from us which presumably is exactly what we're trying to prevent. -- [[User:sebmol|sebmol]] [[User talk:sebmol|<sup>?</sup>]] 18:23, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
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| ::::I understand. However, I've clarified VFU and I really just want to establish a system in place and educate users on how to deal with vandalism - currently, there's no way of knowing what to do with vandalism besides revert it unless another user tells you what to do. There's nothing saying, "Contact a sysop at [<nowiki></nowiki>[here]<nowiki></nowiki>]". Just reverting vandalism is good, but if vandals continue to compromise pages, people need to know what to do about it - in fact, they need to know what to do about it in the first place. I suppose a 'unit' is a bad idea, as it gives the impression of many vandal fighters actively reverting vandalism (which, unlike en:wp, is clearly not the situation). I simply felt that having a few users develop a page to educate the public on dealing with vandalism was useful. --[[User:Draicone|<b>Draicone</b>]] [[User_talk:Draicone|<sup><span style="color: #FF9933;">(talk)</span></sup>]] 09:12, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
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| == 3/4th ==
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| We have spent 3/4th of wikiversity's existance redesigning the main page. Could we just throw one of the designs up there and call it good? It can always be reverted.--[[User:Rayc|Rayc]] | <small>([[User_talk:Rayc|Talk]])</small> 04:28, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
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| :We've got some content started, there's hundreds of pages listed at [[Special:Allpages]]. --[[User:Draicone|<b>Draicone</b>]] [[User_talk:Draicone|<sup><span style="color: #FF9933;">(talk)</span></sup>]] 08:10, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
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| ::If we are talking about a "design change" then the new main page should have the same content as the current main page....just with a new design. I'm reluctant to switch to either [[Wikiversity:Main Page/Design 1]] or [[Wikiversity:Main Page/Design 2]] because they have content changes. It is not easy for me to follow the trail of of past discussions starting at [[Wikiversity talk:Main Page/Design 1]] that might explain the content changes. There was a request made at ([[Wikiversity:Request custodian action]]) that "Design 2" be used, but there are no discussions at all at [[Wikiversity talk:Main Page/Design 2]]. If there are going to be content changes (new image, "where you can teach to learn and learn to teach", etc) then I would like to see a summary of the content changes and a description at [[Wikiversity talk:Main Page/Design 2]] of how those changes were selected. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 13:57, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
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| :::The bulk of the new design discussions are described here: [[Wikiversity_talk:Main_Page#New_page_design]], with links in that discussion to points elsewhere. The discussion includes various summaries as does the admin request page. JW, since you have objected to the new design in the past (on the Design 1 talk page) and as you are responsible for many of the recent new content changes/tweaks on the old front page design since the new design was developed (and hence you can best summarize those), I do not think you should serve as facilitator on this issue. Just my opinion, [[User:Reswik|Reswik]] 14:26, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
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| ::::I have only had a few comments and suggestions about the new main page design. I originally [[User talk:Trevor MacInnis/MainPage#upper right overlap|wondered]] if what looked like an overlap in rectangles in [[User:Trevor MacInnis/MainPage|the upper right corner]] was a an error. I was told that it is a design feature. I requested that there be efforts made to make it easy to read any blue text placed on a blue background. I think it is reasonable that any page content changes existing in the new design be summarized and justified all in one place. There is a difference between making changes to the main page (the most observed page of the wiki) and making changes on a page that ranked [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~leon/stats/wikicharts/index.php?limit=100&ns=all&wiki=enwikiversity&month=08/2006 92nd] in terms of page views during the last week of August and [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~leon/stats/wikicharts/index.php?ns=all&limit=500&month=09%2F2006&wiki=enwikiversity 246th] so far during September. --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 15:51, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
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| :::::Another summary: Of expressed views about posting the new design, there is a strong majority in favor of posting the new design. Usability issues seem to have been addressed. I do not wish to summarize this further or put work into reconciling the old main page and new main page. If you want to revise Design 2 feel free. A further review of the details of summaries provided already in several places and how to deal new emergent issues due to edits to the old main page will be hopefully a task that a custodian or other volunteer who posts Design 2 will take on, whenever. Personally, I believe Design 2 is ready to post and be adjusted by the community. It is past time for that. [[User:Reswik|Reswik]] 20:51, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
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| ::Yes, I'm just talking about the main page. Lot of other stuff has been done, improved, etc, but the main page, the most visable page, is pretty much the same as it was a month ago. Is there anything I can do to help out with the redesign? Have you considered the [http://www.usability.uk.com/glossary/3-click-rule.htm three click rule?]--[[User:Rayc|Rayc]] 18:26, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
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| :I've implemented the main page as set out on ''Main Page Design 2''. I've also refactored it a bit so individual parts can be edited by users without custodian privileges. Should this not work, the subpages can be protected as needed. -- [[User:sebmol|sebmol]] [[User talk:sebmol|<sup>?</sup>]] 22:29, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
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| == project page picture ==
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| why were Image:South African classroom.jpg chose. Is wiki international? I mean that it which explain all people should be choose.
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| :It was changed from a bunch of dead white guys. It's an exact opposite picture and a stop gap until we get a random picture function or a logo to put their.--[[User:Rayc|Rayc]] 18:28, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
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| ==Engineering PORTAL==
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| the engineering link on the main page needs to go to Portal:Engineering and Technology, not School:Engineering
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| :Changed it. Now the comSci people will have a 3 click path to there page from main. --[[User:Rayc|Rayc]] 18:43, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
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| ::That is ok, since before it was a 5 click path because you kept getting redirected to the wrong place. [[User:DamienBlack|Damien Black]] 22:04, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
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| the engineering link was changed back to School:Engineering... why is it the only school there and why isn't it pointing to Portal:Engineering and Technology? [[User:DamienBlack|Damien Black]] 23:27, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
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| :Well, It might of been because of the main page switch over, though if not, there probably is a good reason for it. Math also has a school on the main page.--[[User:Rayc|Rayc]] 03:26, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
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| == Main Page picture ==
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| This new picture on the Main Page is certainly looking better than the previous one, and it associates on school and learning more efficiently, but its big problem is that there are no people in it at all. And since this aspect is very important, if I had to choose between them, I'd choose the old happy corridor instead of this sad abandoned lonely classroom. The old picture reflects the Wikiversity's openness and community way better than this looking-good, but wrong-message-sending one. --[[User:Ђорђе Д. Божовић|George D. Bozovic]] <sup>[[User talk:Ђорђе Д. Божовић|talk]]</sup> 23:22, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
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| :Oh, I see, the pictures are changing daily. Good idea! --[[User:Ђорђе Д. Божовић|George D. Bozovic]] <sup>[[User talk:Ђорђе Д. Божовић|talk]]</sup> 01:08, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
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| Nice design. Congratulations to the designers. [[User:205.189.97.202|205.189.97.202]] 01:15, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
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