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==Legacy and influence== {{Music ratings | title = Retrospective professional ratings | rev1 = [[AllMusic]] | rev1score = {{Rating|5|5}}<ref name="Ruhlmann">{{cite web |url=https://www.allmusic.com/album/horses-mw0000198924 |title=Horses – Patti Smith |publisher=AllMusic |access-date=January 2, 2010 |last=Ruhlmann |first=William}}</ref> | rev2 = ''[[Chicago Tribune]]'' | rev2score = {{Rating|4|4}}<ref>{{cite news |url=https://www.chicagotribune.com/1996/06/17/back-for-more-5/ |title=Back For More |newspaper=Chicago Tribune |date=June 17, 1996 |access-date=October 11, 2020 |last=Kot |first=Greg}}</ref> | rev3 = ''[[Christgau's Record Guide: Rock Albums of the Seventies|Christgau's Record Guide]]'' | rev3score = A{{sfn|Christgau|1981|pp=359–360}} | rev4 = ''[[Mojo (magazine)|Mojo]]'' | rev4score = {{Rating|5|5}}<ref>{{cite magazine |title=Dancing with Ghosts |magazine=Mojo |location=London |issue=263 |date=October 2015 |last=Aston |first=Martin |page=83}}</ref> | rev5 = ''[[NME]]'' | rev5score = 9/10<ref>{{cite magazine |title=Patti Smith: Horses |magazine=NME |location=London |date=July 20, 1996 |page=45}}</ref> | rev6 = ''[[Q (magazine)|Q]]'' | rev6score = {{Rating|5|5}}<ref>{{cite magazine |title=Patti Smith: Horses / Radio Ethiopia / Easter / Wave / Dream of Life |magazine=[[Q (magazine)|Q]] |location=London |issue=122 |date=November 1996 |last=Doyle |first=Tom |page=154}}</ref> | rev7 = ''[[The Rolling Stone Album Guide]]'' | rev7score = {{Rating|5|5}}{{sfn|Abowitz|2004|pp=751–752}} | rev8 = ''[[Spin (magazine)|Spin]]'' | rev8score = {{Rating|5|5}}<ref>{{cite magazine |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=BpE-C2vX2LcC&pg=PA108 |title=Discography: Patti Smith |magazine=Spin |location=New York |volume=24 |issue=9 |date=September 2008 |access-date=October 8, 2015 |last=Marchese |first=David |page=108}}</ref> | rev9 = ''[[Spin Alternative Record Guide]]'' | rev9score = 10/10{{sfn|Sheffield|1995|p=363}} | rev10 = ''[[Uncut (magazine)|Uncut]]'' | rev10score = 10/10<ref>{{cite magazine |title=Poetry and emotion |magazine=Uncut |location=London |issue=182 |date=July 2012 |last=Cavanagh |first=David |author-link=David Cavanagh |page=37}}</ref> }} ''Horses'' cemented Smith's reputation as a central figure of the New York City punk rock scene.<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20150630-patti-smith-mapplethorpe-promise |title=Behind rock's finest album cover: A timeless friendship |publisher=[[BBC Culture]] |date=June 17, 2015 |access-date=October 7, 2015 |last=Dowling |first=Stephen |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210421155725/https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20150630-patti-smith-mapplethorpe-promise |archive-date=April 21, 2021 |url-status=live}}</ref> It has frequently been cited as the first punk rock album,{{sfn|Tarr|2008|p=29}} as well as one of the key recordings of the punk movement,<ref>{{cite magazine |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=JQ8EAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA52 |title=Patti and Melissa |magazine=Billboard |location=New York |volume=112 |issue=20 |date=May 13, 2000 |access-date=October 7, 2015 |last=Jeffrey |first=Don |page=52}}</ref>{{sfn|Heylin|1996|p=16}} appearing in professional lists of the best punk albums of all time.<ref>{{cite magazine |title=The 100 Best Punk Albums – Patti Smith: Horses |magazine=Q |location=London |edition=special |series=''Never Mind the Jubilee: Here's the True Story of Punk!'' |date=May 2002 |page=141}}</ref><ref>{{cite magazine |url=https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/40-greatest-punk-albums-of-all-time-75659/patti-smith-horses-1975-171942/ |title=40 Greatest Punk Albums of All Time |magazine=Rolling Stone |location=New York |date=April 6, 2016 |access-date=October 20, 2020 |last1=Dolan |first1=Jon |last2=Fine |first2=Jason |last3=Fricke |first3=David |author3-link=David Fricke |last4=Garber-Paul |first4=Elisabeth |last5=Greene |first5=Andy |last6=Hermes |first6=Will |author6-link=Will Hermes |last7=Sheffield |first7=Rob |author7-link=Rob Sheffield |last8=Wolk |first8=Douglas |author8-link=Douglas Wolk}}</ref> "Pipping the [[Ramones (album)|Ramones' first album]] to the post by five months," [[Simon Reynolds]] wrote in ''[[The Observer]]'', "''Horses'' is generally considered not just one of the most startling debuts in rock history but the spark that ignited the punk explosion."<ref name="Reynolds"/> ''Horses'' has been described as a landmark for both punk and its offshoot genre [[new wave music|new wave]], inspiring "a raw, almost amateurish energy for the former and critical, engaging reflexivity for the latter", according to Chris Smith in his book ''[[101 Albums That Changed Popular Music]]'' (2009).{{sfn|Smith|2009|p=120}} Philip Shaw stated that the album "created the template" for subsequent rock music of an "intelligent and self-conscious, yet visceral and exciting" sensibility, identifying its influence on the [[alternative rock]], [[indie rock]], and [[grunge]] movements that followed the punk era.{{sfn|Shaw|2008|p=141}} ''[[Variety (magazine)|Variety]]'' critic David Sprague further noted that "''Horses''—which became the first major-label punk-rock album when Arista unleashed it in 1975—not only helped spread the gospel of Bowery art-punk around the world, it set the tone for smart, unbending female rockers of generations to come."<ref>{{cite magazine |url=https://variety.com/2005/music/reviews/patti-smith-horses-1200519838/ |title=Patti Smith: Horses |magazine=[[Variety (magazine)|Variety]] |location=Los Angeles |date=December 6, 2005 |access-date=September 11, 2016 |last=Sprague |first=David}}</ref> "''Horses'' was hard to enjoy, but I think that was the point. Having been squired by ''Rolling Stone'', whose '60s-centric sensibility was much of what Smith took aim at, I probably had a similar initial reaction{{nbsp}}... that critics swaddled in [[the Beatles]] and [[The Rolling Stones|Stones]] did", reflected [[NPR]]'s Charlie Kaplan, who over time came to view it as "a great work, even despite its weaknesses{{nbsp}}... I still feel the chill of Patti Smith's suspicious gaze when I look at the cover of ''Horses'', but now I feel like I can explain it a little better."<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.npr.org/sections/allsongs/2011/11/29/142891497/youve-never-heard-patti-smiths-horses |title=You've Never Heard Patti Smith's 'Horses'?! |publisher=NPR |date=November 29, 2011 |access-date=January 15, 2025 |last=Kaplan |first=Charlie}}</ref> Various musicians have credited ''Horses'' as an influence. [[Viv Albertine]] of [[the Slits]] said that the album "absolutely and completely changed" her life, adding: "Us girls never stood in front of a mirror posing as if we had a guitar because we had no role models. So, when Patti Smith came along, it was huge. She was groundbreakingly different."<ref name="Williams"/> [[Siouxsie and the Banshees]] frontwoman [[Siouxsie Sioux]], naming "Land" as a recording she considered particularly influential on her, remarked that "apart from [[Nico]], Patti was the first real female writer in rock."<ref>{{cite magazine |title=Rebellious Jukebox |magazine=Melody Maker |location=London |date=August 15, 1992 |last=Sioux |first=Siouxsie |author-link=Siouxsie Sioux |page=34}}</ref> [[R.E.M.]]'s [[Michael Stipe]] bought a copy of ''Horses'' as a high school student and later stated that the album "tore [his] limbs off and put them back on in a whole different order", citing Smith as his primary inspiration for becoming a musician.{{sfn|Wendell|2014|p=38}} Similarly, his R.E.M. bandmate [[Peter Buck]] cited attending the four Atlanta shows Smith played on her first US tour as the moment he started to seriously consider forming a group.<ref>{{cite news |url=https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1985-06-02-ca-14921-story.html |title=Michael Stipe was walking home from a... |newspaper=Los Angeles Times |date=June 2, 1985 |access-date=September 11, 2023 |last=Hilburn |first=Robert}}</ref> [[Morrissey]] and [[Johnny Marr]] shared an appreciation for the record, and one of their early compositions for [[the Smiths]], "The Hand That Rocks the Cradle", uses a melody based on that of "Kimberly".{{sfn|Goddard|2006}} [[Courtney Love]] of [[Hole (band)|Hole]] recounted that listening to ''Horses'' as a teenager helped encourage her to pursue a career in rock music,<ref>{{cite episode |title=Courtney Love |series=Behind the Music |series-link=Behind the Music |network=[[VH1]] |date=June 22, 2010}}</ref> while [[PJ Harvey]] recalled hearing the album and finding it "brilliant—not so much her music but her delivery, words, and her articulation. Her honesty."<ref>{{cite magazine |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=2bSupwnJ2pIC&pg=RA1-PT56 |title=Kicking Against the Pricks |magazine=Spin |location=New York |volume=8 |issue=8 |date=November 1992 |access-date=August 3, 2024 |last=Aston |first=Martin |pages=86–88}}</ref> [[KT Tunstall]] wrote her hit single "[[Suddenly I See]]" (2004) about how she felt inspired to embrace her musical ambitions after seeing Smith on the cover of ''Horses''.<ref>{{cite podcast |url=https://songexploder.net/kt-tunstall |title=KT Tunstall |website=[[Song Exploder]] |date=March 1, 2016 |access-date=February 20, 2022 |last=Hirway |first=Hrishikesh |author-link=Hrishikesh Hirway}}</ref> ''Horses'' has often been named by music critics as one of the all-time greatest albums.{{sfn|Johnstone|2012|p=6}} Lars Brandle of ''[[Billboard (magazine)|Billboard]]'' wrote that the album had come to be regarded as "one of the finest in recorded music history."<ref>{{cite magazine |url=https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/patti-smith-sings-aqua-teen-hunger-force-elegy-listen-6671062/ |title=Patti Smith Sings 'Aqua Teen Hunger Force' Elegy: Listen |magazine=Billboard |location=New York |date=August 20, 2015 |access-date=October 7, 2015 |last=Brandle |first=Lars}}</ref> In 2003 and 2012, ''Horses'' was ranked at number 44 on ''Rolling Stone''{{'}}s [[Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Albums of All Time|list of the 500 greatest albums of all time]],<ref>{{cite magazine |url=http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/500-greatest-albums-of-all-time-19691231/horses-patti-smith-19691231 |title=500 Greatest Albums of All Time: Horses – Patti Smith |magazine=Rolling Stone |location=New York |date=December 11, 2003 |access-date=February 28, 2008 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20101220094210/http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/500-greatest-albums-of-all-time-19691231/horses-patti-smith-19691231 |archive-date=December 20, 2010 |url-status=dead}}</ref><ref>{{cite magazine |url=https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/500-greatest-albums-of-all-time-156826/patti-smith-horses-2-166533/ |title=500 Greatest Albums of All Time |magazine=Rolling Stone |location=New York |date=May 31, 2012 |access-date=September 23, 2019}}</ref> later placing at number 26 on a 2020 updated list.<ref>{{cite magazine |url=https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/best-albums-of-all-time-1062063/patti-smith-horses-3-1063207/ |title=The 500 Greatest Albums of All Time |magazine=Rolling Stone |location=New York |date=September 22, 2020 |access-date=October 17, 2020 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200930233135/https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/best-albums-of-all-time-1062063/patti-smith-horses-3-1063207/ |archive-date=September 30, 2020 |url-status=dead}}</ref> ''NME'' named it the 12th-greatest album of all time in a [[NME's The 500 Greatest Albums of All Time|similar list]] published in 2013.<ref>{{cite magazine |url=https://www.nme.com/photos/the-500-greatest-albums-of-all-time-100-1-1426116 |title=The 500 Greatest Albums Of All Time: 100–1 |magazine=NME |location=London |date=October 25, 2013 |access-date=October 20, 2020}}</ref> In 2006, ''[[Time (magazine)|Time]]'' named ''Horses'' as one of the "All-''Time'' 100 Albums",<ref>{{cite magazine |url=https://entertainment.time.com/2006/11/02/the-all-time-100-albums/slide/horses/ |title=Horses |magazine=[[Time (magazine)|Time]] |location=New York |date=November 2, 2006 |access-date=October 6, 2015 |last=Tyrangiel |first=Josh |author-link=Josh Tyrangiel}}</ref> and ''The Observer'' listed it as one of 50 albums that changed music history.<ref>{{cite news |url=https://www.theguardian.com/music/2006/jul/16/popandrock.shopping |title=The 50 albums that changed music |newspaper=The Observer |location=London |date=July 16, 2006 |access-date=October 20, 2020}}</ref> Three years later, the album was preserved by the [[Library of Congress]] into the [[National Recording Registry]] for being "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant".<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.loc.gov/item/prn-10-116/ |title=The Sounds of Fighting Men, Howlin' Wolf and Comedy Icon Among 25 Named to the National Recording Registry |publisher=[[Library of Congress]] |date=June 23, 2010 |access-date=October 6, 2015}}</ref> ''Horses'' was also inducted into the [[Grammy Hall of Fame]] in 2021.<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.grammy.com/news/grammy-hall-fame-2021-inductions-welcomes-recordings-tribe-called-quest-billie-holiday-journey-linda |title=GRAMMY Hall Of Fame Welcomes 2021 Inductions: A Tribe Called Quest, Billie Holiday, Journey, Patti Smith, Bruce Springsteen And More |publisher=[[The Recording Academy]] |date=December 22, 2020 |access-date=June 21, 2021}}</ref> For the 30th anniversary of ''Horses'', the full album was performed live by Smith on June 25, 2005 at the [[Royal Festival Hall]], during the [[Meltdown (festival)|Meltdown]] festival, which Smith curated.<ref name="Cooper">{{cite news |url=https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/reviews/meltdown-patti-smith-s-horses-royal-festival-hall-london-496717.html |title=Meltdown: Patti Smith's Horses, Royal Festival Hall, London |newspaper=The Independent |location=London |date=June 27, 2005 |access-date=March 7, 2018 |last=Cooper |first=Tim}}</ref> She was backed by original band members Lenny Kaye and Jay Dee Daugherty, as well as Tony Shanahan on bass guitar and piano, Tom Verlaine on guitar, and [[Flea (musician)|Flea]] on bass guitar and trumpet.<ref name="Cooper"/><ref name="Jurek">{{cite web |url=https://www.allmusic.com/album/release/horses-30th-anniversary-legacy-edition-mr0000437326 |title=Horses [30th Anniversary Legacy Edition] – Patti Smith |publisher=AllMusic |access-date=March 7, 2018 |last=Jurek |first=Thom}}</ref> In 2015, Smith performed ''Horses'' in its entirety at a series of concerts celebrating its 40th anniversary.<ref name="Grow"/> The 30th-anniversary performance was released on November 8, 2005 as the second disc of a double CD titled ''Horses/Horses'', with the [[remaster|digitally remastered]] version of the original 1975 album, along with the bonus track "My Generation", on the first disc.<ref name="Jurek"/> For the release, the live set was recorded by [[Emery Dobyns]] and mixed by Dobyns and Shanahan.<ref name="2005Notes">{{cite AV media notes |title=Horses/Horses |others=[[Patti Smith]] |publisher=[[Arista Records]] |year=2005 |id=82876711982 |type=liner notes}}</ref> The original album has also been reissued in remastered form several other times, including on June 18, 1996 (both as a standalone CD and as part of the CD [[box set]] ''[[The Patti Smith Masters]]''),<ref>{{cite magazine |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=rQkEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA1 |title=Arista's Smith Is Back with 'Gone' |magazine=Billboard |location=New York |volume=108 |issue=23 |date=June 8, 1996 |access-date=November 15, 2020 |last=Newman |first=Melinda |pages=1, 114}}</ref> and on April 21, 2012, on [[LP record|LP]] for that year's [[Record Store Day]] celebration.<ref>{{cite web |url=https://recordstoreday.com/SpecialRelease/5337 |title=Record Store Day 2012 > Patti Smith – Horses |publisher=[[Record Store Day]] |access-date=January 14, 2025}}</ref>
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