Editing Vandals (section)

====Early classical sources====
The earliest mention of the Vandals is from [[Pliny the Elder]], who used the term ''Vandili'' in a broad way to define one of the major groupings of all [[Germanic peoples]]. Tribes within this category whom he mentions are the [[Burgundiones]], [[Varini]], [[Carini (Germanic tribe)|Carini]] (otherwise unknown), and the [[Gutones]].<ref>{{Cite web |url=https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0137%3Abook%3D4%3Achapter%3D28 |title=Natural History 4.28 |access-date=2014-01-14 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20130530161627/http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0137%3Abook%3D4%3Achapter%3D28 |archive-date=2013-05-30 |url-status=live }}</ref>

Tacitus mentioned the ''Vandilii'', but only in a passage explaining legends about the origins of the Germanic peoples. He names them as one of the groups sometimes thought to be one of the oldest divisions of these peoples, along with the [[Marsi (Germanic)|Marsi]], [[Gambrivii]], [[Suebi]] but does not say where they live, or which peoples are within this category. On the other hand, Tacitus and Ptolemy give information about the position of Varini, Burgundians, and Gutones in this period, and these indications suggest that the Vandals in this period lived between the Oder and Vistula rivers.{{sfn|Berndt|2010|p=549}}

Ptolemy furthermore mentioned the [[Silingi]] who were later counted as Vandals, as living south of the [[Semnones]], who were Suebians living on the Elbe, and stretching to the Oder.<ref>"The Geography of Claudius Ptolemy", Book II, Chapter 10: "Greater Germany"". [https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Gazetteer/Periods/Roman/_Texts/Ptolemy/2/10.html transcript] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20221102001414/https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Gazetteer/Periods/Roman/_Texts/Ptolemy/2/10.html |date=2022-11-02 }}</ref>

The Hasdingi, who later led the invasion of Carthage, do not appear in written records until the 2nd century and the time of the Marcomannic wars.<ref>Walter Goffart, ''Barbarian Tides'', p. 85.</ref> The Lacringi appear in 3rd century records.<ref>Walter Pohl, ''Die Germanen'', p. 23</ref>