Editing Angles (tribe) (section)

===Ptolemy===
Surviving versions of the work of [[Ptolemy]], who wrote around AD 150, in his ''[[Geography (Ptolemy)|Geography]]'' (2.10), describe the Angles in a confusing manner. In one passage, the ''Sueboi Angeilloi'' (or ''Suevi Angili''), are described as living inland between the northern [[Rhine]] and central [[Elbe]], but apparently not touching either river, with the Suebic Langobardi on the Rhine to their west, and the Suebic Semnones on the Elbe stretching to their east, forming a band of Suebic peoples. This positioning of the Langobardi and Angli is unexpected, as are the positions of many of the peoples in this passage. The text is believed to result from the combining of different types of older texts. As pointed out by [[Gudmund Schütte]], the neighbouring Langobards appear in two places, and the ones near the Rhine appears to be there by mistake.<ref>Ptolemy, ''Geography'', [https://wayback.archive-it.org/all/20171020085906/http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Gazetteer/Periods/Roman/_Texts/Ptolemy/2/10/limited.html 2.10].</ref>{{sfnp|Schütte|1917|p=[https://archive.org/details/ptolemysmapsofno00schrich/page/34 34]|ps= See also pp. 119–120, & 125–127}} Schütte, in his analysis, believes that the Angles are placed correctly relative to the Langobardi to their west, but that these have been positioned in the wrong place. The Langobardi also appear in the expected position on the lower Elbe, and the Angles would be expected to their northeast, based upon Tacitus.{{sfnp|Schütte|1917|p=[https://archive.org/stream/ptolemysmapsofno00schrich#page/34/mode/2up/search/angles 34] & [https://archive.org/stream/ptolemysmapsofno00schrich#page/118/mode/2up/search/angles 118]}}

Another theory is that all or part of the Angles dwelt or moved among other coastal people, perhaps confederated up to the basin of the [[Saale]] (in the neighbourhood of the ancient canton of [[Unstruttal (Verwaltungsgemeinschaft)|Engilin]]) on the [[Unstrut]] valleys below the [[Kyffhäuserkreis]], from which region the ''Lex Anglorum et Werinorum hoc est Thuringorum'' is believed by many to have come.{{sfnp|Chadwick|1911|pp=18–19}}<ref name="lex anglorum">{{Cite book|title=[[:la:s:Lex Anglorum et Werinorum hoc est Thuringorum|Lex Anglorum et Werinorum hoc est Thuringorum]]|via=Vikifons|language=la}}</ref> The ethnic names of [[Frisii|Frisians]] and [[Warini|Warines]] are also attested in these Saxon districts.{{cn|date=October 2024}}