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==Arguments in support== {{More citations needed|section|date=February 2019}} Supporters of traducianism present arguments from the [[Bible]] such as: * Begetting includes the image and likeness of God ([[Book of Genesis|Genesis]] {{bibleverse-nb||Gen|5:3}}), but since God is Spirit, this must mean the immaterial aspect of human beings. * God's creation is ''finished'' ({{bibleverse||Genesis|2:2}}), thus no new souls are created directly, but are instead transmitted by natural generation just as the body is. * Creationism destroys the idea of the [[miraculous]] and [[supernatural]], since it incorporates God's supernatural, miraculous creation of the soul (out of nothing or himself) into the natural process of reproduction. This is inherently contradictory, since it makes that which is against natural law a part of nature: it is against natural law that something is created out of nothing. * God created all things "very good" ({{bibleverse||Genesis|1:31}}), yet many Christians understand the Bible to teach that after the fall, all are sinful at birth ([[Book of Job|Job]] {{bibleverse-nb||Job|14:1β4}}; {{bibleverse-nb||Job|15:14}}; [[Psalms|Psalm]] {{bibleverse-nb||Ps|58:3}}; [[Gospel of John|John]] {{bibleverse-nb||John|3:6}}) and from conception ({{bibleverse||Psalm|51:5}}). Since most Theologians hold that God would not have created something sinful, it follows that souls are not created directly but are generated. Those who adhere to [[Roman Catholicism]] believe that it is possible for God to create a soul that simultaneously takes on a fallen nature, much like He can create a soul that simultaneously is prevented from taking on a fallen nature (see The [[Immaculate Conception]]); this view is not typically held by [[Protestantism|Protestants]] or other Christian denominations. * In {{bibleverse||Genesis|6}}, some interpreters see the traducian model as the best explanation for the begetting of monstrous offspring with human bodies and [[Demon|Demonic souls]] by the [[Angel]]s that took wives of the daughters of men. The soul-creationist's difficulty of God creating souls for such monsters may be why most later churchmen rejected the literal interpretation of Genesis 6 as referring to Angels interbreeding with human women. * Traducianists find support in Romans 5:12, "Therefore, just as through one person sin entered the world, and through sin, death, and thus death came to all, inasmuch as all sinned..."<ref>{{bibleverse||Rom|5:12}}</ref> and 1 Corinthians "For just as in Adam all die, so too in Christ shall all be brought to life,"<ref>{{bibleverse||1 Cor|15:22}}</ref><ref name=Randles/> * {{bibleverse||Genesis|46:26}} can be understood to teach that Souls are already present in the loins. * Foundational to the traducian position is the statement in Hebrews 7:10: "When [[Melchizedek]] met [[Abraham]], [[Levi]] was still in the body of his ancestor."<ref>{{bibleverse||Heb|7:10}}</ref><ref name=Grenz>[https://books.google.com/books?id=NAPrXVh_56wC&dq=Traducianism&pg=PA166 Grenz, Stanley J., ''Theology for the Community of God'', Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing, 2000, p. 166] {{ISBN|978-0-8028-4755-3}}</ref> * Since God is indivisible in both quality and nature, the creation of human souls cannot therefore be from some division beyond himself and not of his own substance and quality. It follows then that the creation of the human soul is the product of a merging and reconfiguration within God himself so therefore humanity, being made themselves in God's image and similarly constrained, would likewise generate and issue forth souls but not actually creating anything beyond divine providence. {{More citations needed|section|date=January 2023}} * Also, in the Nicene Creed, the Son was generated, not created, and the Holy Ghost proceeds from the Father and the Son. * According to Genesis chapters 1 and 2, God rested from creating on the 7th day. Creating new souls at each human conception could be seen as working against his finishing of creation.
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