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===Critical response to the more modern papers=== In a 2011 response to the more modern papers on the hypothesis, Russell Seitz published a comment in ''Nature'' challenging Alan Robock's claim that there has been no real scientific debate about the "nuclear winter" concept.<ref>{{cite journal | doi = 10.1038/475037b | pmid=21734694 | volume=475 | issue=7354 | title=Nuclear winter was and is debatable | journal=Nature | page=37 | year=2011 | last1 = Seitz | first1 = Russell| doi-access=free }}</ref> In 1986 Seitz also contends that many others are reluctant to speak out for fear of being stigmatized as "closet [[Dr. Strangelove]]s"; physicist [[Freeman Dyson]] of Princeton for example stated "It's an absolutely atrocious piece of science, but I quite despair of setting the public record straight."<ref name="textfiles.com"/> According to the Rocky Mountain News, Stephen Schneider had been called a fascist by some disarmament supporters for having written his 1986 article "Nuclear Winter Reappraised."<ref name="ORNL" /> [[MIT]] meteorologist [[Kerry Emanuel]] similarly wrote in a review in ''Nature'' that the winter concept is "notorious for its lack of scientific integrity" due to the unrealistic estimates selected for the quantity of fuel likely to burn, the imprecise global circulation models used. Emanuel ends by stating that the evidence of other models point to substantial scavenging of the smoke by rain.<ref>{{cite journal |url=http://texmex.mit.edu/ftp/pub/emanuel/PAPERS/nuclear.pdf |title=Nuclear winter: Towards a scientific exercise |last=Emanuel |first=K. |journal=Nature |volume=319 |page=259 |date=23 Jan 1986 |issue=6051 |doi=10.1038/319259a0 |bibcode=1986Natur.319..259E |s2cid=7405296 |doi-access=free |access-date=2021-09-04 |archive-date=2021-09-04 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210904215009/http://texmex.mit.edu/ftp/pub/emanuel/PAPERS/nuclear.pdf |url-status=live }}</ref> Emanuel also made an "interesting point" about questioning proponents' objectivity when it came to strong emotional or political views that they hold.<ref name="babel.hathitrust.org" /> [[William R. Cotton]], Professor of Atmospheric Science at Colorado State University, specialist in [[cloud physics]] modeling and co-creator of the highly influential<ref>{{cite journal|title=A comprehensive meteorological modeling system—RAMS|first1=R. A.|last1=Pielke|first2=W. R.|last2=Cotton|first3=R. L. |last3=Walko|first4=C. J.|last4=Tremback|first5=W. A.|last5=Lyons|first6=L. D.|last6=Grasso|first7=M. E. |last7=Nicholls|first8=M. D.|last8=Moran |first9=D. A.|last9=Wesley|first10=T. J.|last10=Lee|first11=J. H. |last11=Copeland|date=March 1992|journal=Meteorology and Atmospheric Physics|volume=49|issue=1–4|pages=69–91 |s2cid=3752446 |doi=10.1007/BF01025401 |bibcode=1992MAP....49...69P |url=https://www.academia.edu/5920131 |access-date=2021-09-04}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|website=Google Scholar |url=https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=5%2C48&sciodt=0%2C48&cites=13921324745783044190&scipsc=&q=A+comprehensive+meteorological+modeling+system%E2%80%94RAMS&btnG= |access-date=2021-09-04 |title=Search results: A comprehensive meteorological modeling system—RAMS|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210904200312/https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=5%2C48&sciodt=0%2C48&cites=13921324745783044190&scipsc=&q=A+comprehensive+meteorological+modeling+system%E2%80%94RAMS&btnG= |archive-date=2021-09-04}} {{asof|2021|September}}, over 2500 papers have referenced the original RAMS paper.</ref> and previously mentioned [[Regional Atmospheric Modeling System|RAMS atmosphere model]], had in the 1980s worked on soot rain-out models<ref name="babel.hathitrust.org" /> and supported the predictions made by his own and other nuclear winter models.{{Sfn | Badash |2009 | pp = 184–185}} However, he has since reversed this position, according to a book co-authored by him in 2007, stating that, amongst other systematically examined assumptions, far more rain out/wet deposition of soot will occur than is assumed in modern papers on the subject: "We must wait for a new generation of [[General Circulation Model|GCMs]] to be implemented to examine potential consequences quantitatively". He also states that, in his view, "nuclear winter was largely politically motivated from the beginning".<ref name=autogenerated4/><ref name="assets.cambridge.org"/>
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