Editing Zibelthiurdos (section)

==Etymology==
His name speculatively means "Lightning Carrier" or "Thunderer",{{sfn|Popov|2009|p=24}} but it is uncertain whether Zibelthiurdos is his name or an epithet. Dimitar Detschew supposed that Zbelturdos and variations are epithets of the Thracian reflex of the [[Proto-Indo-European mythology|Proto-Indo-European]] sky-god ''[[*Dyēus]]''.<ref>{{Cite journal |first=Dimitar |last=Detschev |journal=Bulletin de l'Institut archéologique |volume=18 |date=1952 |page=50 |title=Une triade familiale, dans la religion des Thraces |lang=BG}}</ref>

Tomaschek interpreted that ''Zibel-'' and ''Zbel-'' were the same word, although he believed the former to be the older form (cf. Thracian king Ζιβέλμιος, or [[Ziselmius|Zibelmios]]).{{sfn|Tomaschek|1893c|p=61}} He also derived ''Zbel-'' from a [[Proto-Indo-European language|Proto-Indo-European stem]] ''*ģʰeib-'' "light, lightning".{{sfn|Tomaschek|1893c|p=61}}{{sfn|Eliade|1970|pp=58–60}}  Also the Getic theonym ''[[Gebeleizis]]'' has been explained as a compound of ''gebele'' and ''zis''; ''gebele'' probably is from the same PIE root {{lang|ine-x-proto|ģʰeib-}}; ''zis'' is a reflex of the PIE day-light-sky god [[*Dyēus]], the same as Messapic [[Zis (deity)|Zis]] (cognate and equivalent of the Greek [[Zeus]]). The Thracian theonym Zibelthiurdos or Zbelsurdos appears to contain the same PIE root, but with a different phonetic development – ''zebele'' instead of ''gebele''.{{sfn|Eliade|1970|pp=58–60}} The second part of the theonym ''Zbelsurdos'', ''surdos'', has been equated with the [[Albanian language|Albanian]] theonym ''[[Shurdh]]'' used in some regions of northern [[Albania]] to refer to the [[Zojz (deity)|weather god]], worshiped until the 20th century and presumably preserved since [[Illyrians|Illyrian]] times.{{sfn|Treimer|1971|pp=31–33}}{{sfn|Elsie|2001|p=238}}{{sfn|Lurker|2004|p=172}} This term has been interpreted as meaning either "water donor"{{sfn|Treimer|1971|pp=31–33}} or "bellow, hum".{{sfn|Eliade|1970|pp=58–60}} 

In another line of scholarship, Dimitar Detschew assumed that the particles ''Zber-'' and ''Zbel-'' derived from a [[Proto-Indo-European]] stem ''*ģwer-'' 'briller, éclairer'.<ref name=Detschev>{{Cite journal |first=Dimitar |last=Detschev |journal=Bulletin de l'Institut archéologique |volume=18 |date=1952 |page=50 |title=Une triade familiale, dans la religion des Thraces |lang=BG}}</ref> Furthermore, if the second part of the original form of the Thracian theonym was ''thiurdos'', ''thurdos'', etc. instead of ''surdos'', another etymology has been proposed: derived from a stem ''*twer''/''*tur'' 'to have', while ''*dho'' would indicate a nomen agentis suffix. In this view ''Zbelthiurdos'' would mean 'he who has the lightning'.<ref name=Detschev/>

=== Related words ===
Per Tomaschek, further descendants of ''*ģʰeib-'' would include [[Lithuanian language|Lithuanian]] ''žaibas'' "lightning", verb ''žibėti'' "to shine, to glow", and possibly [[Croatian language|Croatian]] ''zúblja'' "torch" and [[Slovene language|Slovene]] ''zubelj'' "flame".{{sfn|Tomaschek|1893c|p=61}} In the same vein, Bulgarian linguist [[Vladimir I. Georgiev]] proposed a connection to Lithuanian ''Žiburys'' 'light, torch'.<ref>Georgiev, Vladimir I.. "Thrakisch und Dakisch". Band 29/2. Teilband Sprache und Literatur (Sprachen und Schriften [Forts.]), edited by Wolfgang Haase, Berlin, Boston: De Gruyter, 1983. p. 1207. {{doi|10.1515/9783110847031-016}}</ref><ref>Georgiev, Vladimir I.. "Thrakisch und Dakisch". Band 29/2. Teilband Sprache und Literatur (Sprachen und Schriften [Forts.]), edited by Wolfgang Haase, Berlin, Boston: De Gruyter, 1983. p. 1158. {{doi|10.1515/9783110847031-015}}</ref>

Bulgarian linguist {{ill|Ivan Duridanov|bg|Иван Дуриданов}} indicated the word ''Zbel-'' is related to [[Latvian language|Latvian]] ''zibele'' "lightning".{{sfn|Duridanov|1985|p=69}}