Editing Oggy Oggy Oggy (section)

==Origins==

"Oggy" is a slang term for a [[Pasty|Cornish pasty]] derived from its Cornish language name, ''"hogen"'',<ref>{{cite web |title=hogen | url=https://www.cornishdictionary.org.uk/?locale=en#hogen&sln=kw | work=Gerlyver Kernewek | date=30 September 2023}}</ref> and was used by local Cornish sailors throughout Cornwall as well as at the [[HMNB Devonport|Devonport Dockyard]] in reference to pasty sellers who stand outside the gates.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.cyriltawney.co.uk/depth.htm#oggie|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20100826085846/http://www.cyriltawney.co.uk/depth.htm#oggie|archive-date=26 August 2010 |title=Tawney in Depth – The background to some of Cyril's classic songs |publisher=Cyriltawney.co.uk |date=28 June 1977 |access-date=18 September 2011}}</ref> The chant formed the traditional end to the Tiddy Oggy Song, the unofficial anthem of the [[Devonshire and Dorset Regiment]] and The Devonport marines are still associated with the song Oggie Man by [[Cyril Tawney]] which they generally sing at public displays.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.horntip.com/html/books_&_MSS/2000s/2009-01-13_www2-army-mod-uk--_(PDF)/index.htm|title=Regimental Song Book – Tiddy Oggy Song|access-date=4 January 2022}}</ref>

Tin-miners' wives or pasty sellers supposedly shouted ''"Oggy Oggy Oggy"'' – the response from any hungry miner or labourer would be ''Oi!, Oi!, Oi!.''{{Citation needed|date=February 2023}} The chant is also the chorus of a folk song and has always been heard at [[Cornish rugby]] matches so this seem another possible origin.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.trelawnysarmy.org.uk/ta/tasongs.html|title=Cornish Rugby Songs|website=trelawnysarmy.org.uk|access-date=26 February 2009|archive-date=3 December 2008|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20081203185746/http://www.trelawnysarmy.org.uk/ta/tasongs.html|url-status=live}}</ref>

The [[Oxford English Dictionary]] (2004) entry for "Oggy" states: "Oggy, ''noun''. ''West Country regional'' (orig. ''Cornwall'') and ''Navy'' slang. A Cornish pasty. Probably an alteration of Cornish ''hoggan'' pastry, pie (18th century), perhaps cognate with Welsh ''chwiogen'' muffin, [[simnel cake]] (1562), of unknown origin."<ref>Oxford English Dictionary, 2004 edition.</ref>

Members of the [[Royal Navy]] claim to have used the chant, or a version of it, since the [[Second World War]].<ref>{{cite web|url=http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/navysong/Data/S0022.HTM|title=Oggie Song|date=2 February 2009|url-status=dead|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20090202085300/http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/navysong/Data/S0022.HTM|archive-date=2 February 2009}}</ref>
The 'Oggie, Oggie, Oggie' chant was used by supporters of the Royal Navy's Devonport Field Gun Team and by members of the [[Devonshire and Dorset Regiment]]. (The [[field gun competition]] was discontinued in 1999 after a hundred years of competition and the infantry regiment folded into [[The Rifles]] in 2007).<ref>{{cite web|url=http://portsmouth-guide.co.uk/local/gun-run.htm|title=Portsmouth Field Gun Crew, Whale Island|website=portsmouth-guide.co.uk|access-date=2 September 2007|archive-date=28 September 2007|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20070928151716/http://portsmouth-guide.co.uk/local/gun-run.htm|url-status=live}}</ref><ref>{{cite news|url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/6319493.stm|title=Army units merge to form Rifles|date=1 February 2007|publisher=BBC News|access-date=3 January 2012}}</ref>

It was then adopted at a few British [[Association football|football]] grounds at some point during the [[postwar]] period, and was certainly in common use by the 1960s most notably at Home Park amongst the supporters of [[Plymouth Argyle]].

In the 1970s the [[Welsh people|Welsh]] folk singer and comedian [[Max Boyce]] popularised the chant to excite the crowd at his concerts.<ref name="Boyce">{{cite news|title=Oggy! chant 'came from Cornwall'|url=https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/oggy-chant-came-from-cornwall-2297991|agency=Wales Online|date=26 March 2018|access-date=26 March 2018|archive-date=27 March 2018|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20180327084214/https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/oggy-chant-came-from-cornwall-2297991|url-status=live}}</ref> Boyce is also a big [[rugby union]] fan, and through him it then began to be adopted by [[Welsh rugby union]] crowds at international matches. Soon it spread to rugby crowds at club and international level. In a patriotic outburst during her [[BAFTA Award for Best Actress in a Supporting Role|BAFTA Award]] acceptance speech in 2003 Welsh actress [[Catherine Zeta-Jones]] shouted the chant.<ref>{{cite news|title=Zeta Jones wins Bafta|url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/2793151.stm|publisher=BBC|date=26 March 2018|access-date=26 March 2018|archive-date=11 May 2004|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20040511214755/http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/2793151.stm|url-status=live}}</ref>

The chant was also used by Coventry City football fans during the 1980s and 1990s in appreciation to then goalkeeper [[Steve Ogrizovic]] who had been nicknamed 'Oggy'.

It is also often used at sideshows on rides such as the Heartbreaker and the Waltzers, where the rides controller says "oggie, oggie, oggie" and the people on the ride shout 'oi, oi, oi" to get the ride to speed up or get more spins etc.