Editing Miller's knot (section)

==Tying==
The common aspects of the most common bag knots are two crossing turns, and both ends tucked under some turns near the crossing point. Two ends, and two turns one can tuck under, gives a limited number of alternatives.   All of these knots can also be made in a slipped form by starting with a bight and/or by completing the final tuck with a bight instead of the end.<ref name="ashley224">Ashley, 224.</ref>

To avoid ambiguity, versions of these knots that are not slipped are pictured below with the reference numbers found in ''[[The Ashley Book of Knots]]''.
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File:Millers-Knot-ABOK-1241.jpg|4 - ABOK #1241
File:Millers-Knot-ABOK-1242.jpg|2 - ABOK #1242
FIle:Groundline-Hitch-Loose-ABOK-1243.jpg|3 - ABOK #1243 or [[Spar hitch]] or [[Ground-line hitch]]
File:Millers-Knot-ABOK-1244.jpg|5 - ABOK #1674 (slipped: ABOK #1244)
File:Clove hitch (PSF).jpg|6 - ABOK #11 or [[Clove hitch]]
File:Inkscape Constrictor Knot.svg|1 - ABOK #176 or [[Constrictor knot]]
File:Strangle-knot-ABOK-1239.jpg|7 - ABOK #1239 or [[Strangle knot]]
File:SiseBagiHazir.JPG|8 - ABOK #260 or [[Bottle sling]]
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This is to tie  a [[Constrictor knot]] version of the '''miller's knot''':
[[Image:Constrictor-ABOK-1249.jpg|right|550px| 1 Constrictor knot]]

# Grip the neck of the bag with the left hand,
# Fix / immobilize one end of the rope tucked upwards over the left hand long finger and under the index finger (option 1 : double folded as a [[Bight (knot)|bight]] to prepare a start-side-slip for the final knot)
# Make two crossing turns around the neck of the bag. Detailed steps:
## Cross over the hand downwards and take one turn around (front, then back) the neck of the bag at the sack side of the hand (under the hand)
## Cross over the hand upwards as well as over the immobilized other end,
## Take a second turn around the neck of the bag at the opening side of the hand (over the hand)
# Cross over the immobilized other end of the rope, then cross back tucking under the crossing point of step 3.2 (of the immobilized other end, and the part between the two turns), (option 2 : this last tuck with a [[Bight (knot)|bight]] instead of the end as an end-side-slip for the final knot).

To tie the other variants:
# If at the last step one chooses not to cross the immobilized other end and tuck only inwards under the part between the two turns, the knot will be an [[ABoK]] #11 or [[Clove hitch]].  
# If at the last step one chooses to cross the immobilized other end and tuck only under the part between the two turns,  the knot will be an [[ABoK]] #1242 (tuck inwards) 
# or a [[ground-line hitch]] ([[ABoK]] #1243 - tuck outwards) pictured.  It should be tightened by pulling the end first. It is also called [[Spar hitch]]
# If at the last step one chooses to cross over the crossing point, and then tuck outwards under the first turn, the knot will be an [[ABoK]] #1241 pictured.
# If at the last step one chooses to cross over the crossing point, and then tuck inwards under the first turn, the knot will be an [[ABoK]] #1674 pictured. Shown in a slipped form at entry #1244, this variation is noted by [[Clifford Ashley|Ashley]] as having better binding characteristics than the others.<ref name="ashley224"/>

Tying other knots that also may function very well as a bag knot but are slightly different from above descriptions:
# [[Strangle knot]] (two non crossing turns with one end crossing over both and tucked under both)
## Grip the neck of the bag with the left hand,
## Fix / immobilize one end of the rope tucked upwards over the left hand long and under the index finger (option 1 : double folded as a [[Bight (knot)|bight]] to prepare a start-side-slip for the final knot)
## Make two parallel turns around the neck of the bag. Detailed steps:
### Cross over the hand downwards and take one turn around (front, then back) the neck of the bag first at the sack side of the hand (under the hand), then over the hand and behind the immobilized other end.
### Take another turn crossing over the immobilized other end, crossing downwards over the hand around (front, then back) the neck of the bag parallel to the first turn 
## Cross over the immobilized other end of the rope, then cross back tucking under both turns, (option 2 : this last tuck with a [[Bight (knot)|bight]] instead of the end as an end-side-slip for the final knot).  
# [[Bottle sling]] (sides of a bight form one turn each, pleat between all 4 enter and exit points inside of two turns)
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File:SiseBagi1.JPG|8-1- For ABOK #260 [[Bottle sling]] start with an [[Overhand knot]] pulled to a [[Slip knot]]
File:SiseBagi2.JPG|8-2-The end side of the slip is folded into a loop with end side up 
File:SiseBagi3.JPG|8-3-The resulting loop is folded under and the slip side of the [[Overhand knot]] pulled through it
File:SiseBagi4.JPG|8-4-The remaining slip is passed over the loop and under the knot bight  pulled through the loop 
File:SiseBagiHazir.JPG|8-5-The hole in the middle ready to be slipped over the swirled and double folded bag mouth, and tightened
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