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== Progenitor and eponym of the Hellenes == Hellen was [[Thessaly|Thessalian]].<ref>Fowler 1998, [https://www.jstor.org/stable/44696765?seq=11 p. 11]; Fowler 2013, [https://books.google.com/books?id=scd8AQAAQBAJ&pg=PA128 p. 128].</ref> [[Homer]], in the part of the ''[[Iliad]]'' known as the [[Catalogue of Ships]], mentions the [[Hellenes]] ({{lang|grc|Ἕλληνες}}) as a small tribe in Thessalic [[Phthia]], among those commanded by [[Achilles]].<ref>[[Homer]], ''[[Iliad]]'' [http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0012.tlg001.perseus-eng1:2.653-2.694 2.681–4]; Fowler 1998, [https://www.jstor.org/stable/44696765?seq=10 p. 10]; March, [https://archive.org/details/March.Jenny_Cassells.Dictionary.of.Classical.Mythology/page/368/mode/2up?view=theater s.v. Hellen, p. 369]. Cf. [[Herodotus]], [http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0016.tlg001.perseus-eng1:1.56.2 1.56.2–3].</ref> Similarly, according to a scholion on Apollonius of Rhodes, Hecataeus and "Hesiod" considered Deucalion's descendants to be Thessalian.<ref>Fowler 1998, [https://www.jstor.org/stable/44696765?seq=11 p. 11]; Scholia on [[Apollonius of Rhodes]], 4.265 (Wendel, [https://books.google.com/books?id=0lkhbarJcukC&pg=PA276 p. 276]) [= ''[[FGrHist]]'' [https://scholarlyeditions.brill.com/reader/urn:cts:greekLit:fgrh.0001.bnjo-1-ed-grc:f14 1 F14]] [= [[Hesiod]], ''[[Catalogue of Women]]'' [https://www.loebclassics.com/view/hesiod-catalogue_women/2018/pb_LCL503.47.xml fr. 6 Most, pp. 46, 47] = fr. 6 Merkelbach-West, p. 6 = [https://archive.org/details/hesiodhomerichym00hesiuoft/page/156/mode/2up?view=theater fr. 5 Evelyn-White, pp. 156, 157]].</ref> According to [[Thucydides]], [[Achaea Phthiotis]], as the birthplace of Hellen,<ref>Cf. [[Gaius Julius Solinus|Solinus]], ''Polyhistor'' [https://topostext.org/work/747#8.1 8.1].</ref> was the home of the Hellenes; he says that before Hellen the name "Hellas" ({{lang|grc|Ἑλλάς}}) didn't exist, but rather there were various tribes which went under different names, particularly "[[Pelasgian]]".<ref>''[[Brill's New Jacoby|BNJ]]'', commentary on 1 F3; [[Thucydides]], [http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0003.tlg001.perseus-eng3:1.3.2 1.3.2].</ref> It was only when Hellen and his sons "grew strong in Phthiotis" that they allied with various cities in war and these cities, one by one, through their association with Hellen and his sons, came to be called "Hellenes", though it was a long time before the name came to be applied to all.<ref>Bury, p. 226; [[Thucydides]], [http://data.perseus.org/citations/urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0003.tlg001.perseus-eng3:1.3.2 1.3.2]. Thucydides uses the mention of the Hellenes in the ''[[Iliad]]'' to support his argument here, as there they refer only to the group in Phthia (who Thucydides calls the "original Hellenes").</ref>
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