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== Related symbols == A '''double flat''' (π«) lowers a note by two semitones (a whole step). :<score>{ \omit Score.TimeSignature \relative c'' { beses1 } }</score> A '''quarter-tone flat''', '''half flat''' or '''demiflat''' indicates the use of [[quarter tone]]s; it may be marked with various symbols including a flat with a slash ({{music|flatstroke}}), a flat with a 4 ({{vanchor|π³}}),{{cn|date=April 2025}} or a {{vanchor|reversed flat sign}} ({{music|d}}). A '''three-quarter-tone flat''', '''flat and a half''' or '''sesquiflat''' is represented by a demiflat and a whole flat ({{music|db}}). The symbols {{music|-}}, {{music|down}}, {{music|flatstroke}}, among others, represent [[comma (music)|''comma'']] flat or eighth-tone flat.{{efn| The size of the lowering of pitch by a "comma" varies, depending on the tuning system; it is normally {{nobr|[[syntonic comma|{{sfrac| 21 |β―1β―| 2 }} cents]]}} but can vary between 20β25 cents. }} :<score>{ \omit Score.TimeSignature \relative c'' { ceh1 deseh } }</score> A '''triple flat''' (βπ« or π«β) is very rare. As expected, it lowers a note by three semitones (a whole tone and semitone).<ref name=":0"> {{cite web |last=Byrd |first=Donald |date=October 2018 |title=Extremes of conventional music notation |url=https://homes.luddy.indiana.edu/donbyrd/CMNExtremes.htm |website=luddy.indiana.edu |publisher=[[Indiana University]] |place=Bloomington, IN}} </ref> (For example, Bβπ« is [[enharmonic]] with Aβ.)<ref name=":1">{{Cite web |date= |title=B-triple-flat note |url=https://m.basicmusictheory.com/b-triple-flat-note |access-date=March 11, 2025}}</ref> :<score>{ \omit Score.TimeSignature \relative c'' { \tweak Accidental.stencil #ly:text-interface::print \tweak Accidental.text \markup { \concat { \flat \doubleflat }}beses1 } }</score><ref name=":0" /><ref name=":1" /> While this system allows for higher multiples of flats, there are only a few examples of triple flats in the literature. However, '''quadruple flats''' or beyond may be required in some non-standard tuning systems such as [[53 equal temperament]]. A quadruple flat would be indicated by the symbol π«π«.{{Citation needed|date=May 2025}} :<score>{ \omit Score.TimeSignature \relative c'' { \tweak Accidental.stencil #ly:text-interface::print \tweak Accidental.text \markup { \concat { \doubleflat \doubleflat }}beses1 } }</score>{{Citation needed|date=May 2025}}
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