Editing Flagellation (section)

===Shia Islam===
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As suffering and cutting the body with knives or chains (''matam'') have been prohibited by Shi'a [[Marja'|marja]]s like [[Ali Khamenei]], [[Supreme Leader of Iran]],<ref name="ezsoftech.com">{{cite web |author=Akramulla Syed |url=http://www.ezsoftech.com/mazloom/zanjeer.asp |title=Zanjeer Or Qama Zani on Ashura During Muharram |publisher=Ezsoftech.com |date=20 February 2009 |access-date=30 June 2012 |archive-date=18 July 2018 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20180718135409/http://www.ezsoftech.com/mazloom/zanjeer.asp |url-status=usurped }}</ref> some Shi'a observe mourning with blood donation which is called "Qame Zani"<ref name="ezsoftech.com" /> and flailing.<ref name="Jafariya News Network">{{cite web |url=http://www.jafariyanews.com/2k5_news/feb/20ashur.htm |title=Ashura observed with blood streams to mark Karbala tragedy |work=Jafariya News Network |access-date=28 December 2010 |archive-date=26 September 2018 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20180926124031/http://www.jafariyanews.com/2k5_news/feb/20ashur.htm |url-status=live }}</ref> Yet some Shi'ite men and boys continue to slash themselves with chains (''zanjeer'') or swords ([[talwar]]) and allow their blood to run freely.<ref name="Jafariya News Network" />

Certain rituals like the traditional flagellation ritual called [[Tatbir|Talwar zani]] (''talwar ka matam'' or sometimes ''tatbir'') using a sword or ''zanjeer zani'' or ''zanjeer matam'', involving the use of a ''zanjeer'' (a chain with blades) are also performed.<ref>{{cite news |url=http://www.newstatesman.com/200506060012 |title=Scars on the backs of the young |work=New Statesman |location=London |date=6 June 2005 |access-date=28 December 2010 |archive-date=8 January 2011 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110108085112/http://www.newstatesman.com/200506060012 |url-status=live }}</ref> These are religious customs that show solidarity with Husayn and his family. People mourn the fact that they were not present at the battle to fight and save Husayn and his family.{{dubious|date=May 2021}}<ref>{{cite news |url=http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article4620487.ece |work=The Times |location=London |title=Devout Muslim guilty of making boys beat themselves during Shia ceremony |first=Steve |last=Bird |date=28 August 2008 |access-date=1 May 2010 |archive-date=25 January 2024 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20240125105541/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/ |url-status=dead }}{{subscription required}}</ref>{{better source needed|date=May 2021}}<ref>{{cite news |url= http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2008/08/27/55577.html |title= British Muslim convicted over teen floggings |work= Alarabiya.net |date= 27 August 2008 |access-date= 28 December 2010 |archive-date= 2 December 2008 |archive-url= https://web.archive.org/web/20081202145613/http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2008/08/27/55577.html |url-status= live }}</ref>{{better source needed|date=May 2021}} In some western cities, Shi'a communities have organized [[blood donation]] drives with organizations like the [[Red Cross]] on Ashura as a positive replacement for self-flagellation rituals like ''Tatbir'' and ''Qame Zani''.{{cn|date=April 2025}}