Editing Encyclopedia:Reference desk/Miscellaneous (section)

= May 20 =

== Shopping malls opened in recent years ==

If you look at the categories of years shopping malls established, why are there very few malls opened and established in United States as of 2010s and 2020s, compared to Asia, where it opened in large numbers? Why is this a case? And why do malls in USA due so quickly while the other malls outside United States are much better thriving? Please use a mindset again please. [[Special:Contributions/2600:387:F:4B16:0:0:0:9|2600:387:F:4B16:0:0:0:9]] ([[User talk:2600:387:F:4B16:0:0:0:9|talk]]) 05:35, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
:What's the statistical basis for your premise? ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 05:41, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
::The number of shopping malls in United States, compared to Asia. Also the malls are commonly seen opened in Asia and Europe other than United States. See it here: [[:Category:Shopping malls established in the 2020s|as of 2020s]] [[Special:Contributions/2600:387:F:4B16:0:0:0:9|2600:387:F:4B16:0:0:0:9]] ([[User talk:2600:387:F:4B16:0:0:0:9|talk]]) 07:35, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
:::No new malls have opened in England for at least ten years, and those we have are struggling to stay afloat. [[User:Shantavira|Shantavira]]|[[User talk:Shantavira|<sup>feed me</sup>]] 08:57, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
:::The categories of shopping centres/malls by year only lists shopping centres that have an article and have been categorised by year, which means the the authors of the article know the opening year and took the trouble of adding the right category. That makes the list far from complete. The shopping centre I grew up with, on the outskirts of a provincial town in Western Europe, has no article. Only if you know the biases in the list, you can use it for any statistics. [[User:PiusImpavidus|PiusImpavidus]] ([[User talk:PiusImpavidus|talk]]) 09:57, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
:::The USA pioneered [[Shopping mall|shopping malls]], so will have begun to approach its 'saturation level' (where enough are present and suitable sites have mostly been used) earlier than other countries. Further 'mall demand' will largely be driven only by the country's population (and prosperity) increase, but latterly this will have been countered by the steep rise in [[E-commerce#Impacts|online purchases]] for home delivery, [[Retail apocalypse|reducing the need]] for '[[Brick and mortar|bricks and mortar]]' shopping facilities. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/94.1.170.37|94.1.170.37]] ([[User talk:94.1.170.37|talk]]) 13:45, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
:Using North Kansas City as an anecdote: [[Metro North Mall]] was a very popular shopping mall. The owner wanted to increase profits. So, the owner kept increasing rent and fees on the businesses until they were ready to leave the mall. While that took place, the owners purchased land a few miles away and began construction on an outdoor mall called [[Zona Rosa (Kansas City, Missouri)|Zona Rosa]]. In other words, Metro Norh is a mall where shoppers are indoors the whole time and Zona Rosa is a mall where shoppers go outside to go from store to store. The owners realized that the rent and fees for a store with external walls and doors all around is significantly higher than the rent and fees for a small parcel inside an indoor mall. Most of the clients in the indoor mall quickly moved to the outdoor mall, leaving the indoor mall abandoned. Now, the original indoor mall has been demolished. The point of this anecdote is that it isn't that the public prefers to walk around outside in Kansas City's blistering summer heat and brutal winter freezes when shopping. It is that the mall owner wants more money and gets more money with an outdoor mall. So, it is expected that there will be less indoor malls for new construction while outdoor malls (not included in the mall counts) are increasing. [[Special:Contributions/68.187.174.155|68.187.174.155]] ([[User talk:68.187.174.155|talk]]) 14:08, 20 May 2025 (UTC)