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== Connections to black metal scene == NSBM artists are a minority within black metal, according to Mattias Gardell.<ref name="Gardell"/> They have also been rejected or strongly criticized by many prominent black metal musicians – including [[Jon Nödtveidt]],<ref name="Dissection"/> [[Tormentor (musician)|Tormentor]],<ref name="Tormentor"/> [[King ov Hell]],<ref name="kingovhell2">{{cite web|url=http://www.maelstromzine.com/ezine/interview_iss50_224.php|title=Interview with JOTUNSPOR :: Maelstrom :: Issue No 50|website=www.maelstromzine.com|access-date=29 August 2017|archive-date=29 July 2017|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20170729133016/http://www.maelstromzine.com/ezine/interview_iss50_224.php|url-status=dead}}</ref> [[Infernus]],<ref name="infernus2">{{cite web|url=http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/page-not-found|title=Roadrunner Records Page Not Found|website=Roadrunner Records Official Website|access-date=29 August 2017}}</ref> [[Lord Ahriman]],<ref name="billzebub2"/> [[Emperor Magus Caligula]],<ref name="billzebub2"/><ref name="caligulayoutube">{{cite web|url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6pYjLyxCHo| archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20131030071118/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6pYjLyxCHo&gl=GB&hl=en-GB| archive-date=2013-10-30 | url-status=dead|title=YouTube|website=www.youtube.com|access-date=29 August 2017}}</ref> [[Summoning (band)|Protector]],<ref name="Protector">{{cite web|url=http://www.summoning.info/Stuff/PoliticalStatements.html|title=Political Statements from Protector (Summoning)|access-date=29 August 2017|url-status=dead|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120630125512/http://www.summoning.info/Stuff/PoliticalStatements.html|archive-date=30 June 2012}}</ref> Erik Danielsson of [[Watain]],<ref>Doomsdayzach: [http://www.globaldomination.se/interviews/watain-erik-danielsson ''Watain – Erik Danielsson (first one)''] {{webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20081024002551/http://www.globaldomination.se/interviews/watain-erik-danielsson |date=2008-10-24 }}, 24 July 2007, accessed on 31 March 2013.</ref><ref>{{Cite web|url=http://exclaim.ca/music/article/watain_stand_for_black_metal_against_the_genres_nazi_flirtations|title=Watain Address Their Ideology Following Nazi Salute Controversy|last=Zorgdrager|first=Bradley|date=March 29, 2018|website=[[Exclaim!]]|language=en-ca|access-date=2020-04-10}}</ref><ref>Ronald Ziegler: [https://web.archive.org/web/20030121034117/http://www.grimrune.com/watain/heint.html ''Merchandise whorery''], accessed on 31 March 2013.</ref> and the members of [[Arkhon Infaustus]].<ref name="billzebub2"/> Some black-metallers liken Nazism to Christianity in that it is [[Authoritarianism|authoritarian]], [[Collectivism and individualism|collectivist]], and involves a "[[herd mentality]]".<ref name="Dissection">{{cite web|url=http://www.metalcentre.com/webzine.php?p=interviews&lang=eng&nr=123|title=METAL CENTRE Webzine: News, Gallery, Reviews, Interviews etc. - 08/29/2017|first=ataman|last=Tolovy|website=www.metalcentre.com|access-date=29 August 2017}}</ref><ref name="Tormentor">Metal Heart 2/00</ref> It also conflicts with the [[Misanthropy|misanthropic]] views of many artists; Benjamin Hedge Olson writes that the shunning of Nazism within the scene "has nothing to do with notions of a 'universal humanity' or a rejection of hate" but that Nazism is shunned "because its hatred is too specific and exclusive".{{sfn|Olson|2008|p=123}} Joakim of [[Craft (metal band)|Craft]] said, "I don't think national socialism mix[es] with the ideology of real Black Metal in a way, but that doesn't go further than labels. I only think NS Black Metal is an inappropriate label for the music".<ref name="darkside">Thomas Legros: [http://www.voicesfromthedarkside.de/Interviews/CRAFT--6878.html ''Craft''] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160609213059/http://www.voicesfromthedarkside.de/Interviews/CRAFT--6878.html |date=2016-06-09 }}, accessed on 31 March 2013.</ref> While some black-metallers boycott NSBM bands and labels, others draw a line between the music and the musicians, as they only care for the music. Some have criticized this as passive support for NSBM. The bigger print metal magazines tend to ignore records by NSBM bands.<ref name="akweb" /> Christian Dornbusch and Hans-Peter Killguss's 2005 book ''Unheilige Allianzen'' caused a short debate, leading ''Legacy'' magazine to stop printing ads for NSBM labels. Another debate happened in the "letters" section of ''Rock Hard'' magazine following the article ''Der rechte Rand im Black Metal'' (''Black Metal's Far-right Border'').<ref>Mühlmann, Wolf-Rüdiger: ''Der rechte Rand im Black Metal''. In: ''Rock Hard'', No. 241, June 2007, pp. 58–61.</ref> According to ''Unheilige Allianzen'', völkisch [[pagan metal]] and neo-Nazism were the current trends in black metal and in turn, were affecting the broader metal scene.<ref>''Unheilige Allianzen'', p. 290. {{ISBN|3-89771-817-0}}</ref> Stewart Voegtlin likewise wrote for ''[[Stylus Magazine|Stylus]]'' in 2006 that "with a 'nationalistic' wave of violence and hatred spreading from Scandinavia and infiltrating France and Germany, the unfortunate exploits of a few will likely continue to supersede the music itself."<ref name="Stylus Magazine" />
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