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==Technical: IPA== ''Moved from [[Wikipedia:Village Pump]]'' Why is it that on IE 5, while [http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/wells/ipa-unicode.htm this web site] can display every single IPA letters and diacritics correctly, none of the Wikipedias can display any, except the standard 26 English letters? Something looks wrong. We should better WP. --[[User:Menchi|Menchi]] 07:13 May 7, 2003 (UTC) :It's the difference between ''<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">'' and ''<meta http-equiv="Content-type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">'', I suspect. :--[[User:Paul A|Paul A]] 08:10 May 7, 2003 (UTC) ::That reminds me, are there plans afoot for following [[LiveJournal]] and using UTF-8? (LJ did so, and arranged for server-side on-the-fly translation of "legacy" entries to UTF-8 - and LJ is a good example because that's mostly user-contributed content too. Most users were unware of the change to UTF-8, but those that maintained journals in non-english charsets were overjoyed.) [[User:Tenbaset|Tenbaset]] 23:21 May 7, 2003 (UTC) :::We already run in UTF-8 on all phase 3 wikis except for English, Danish, German, French, Dutch, Spanish, Swedish. The reason the western European languages haven't been moved over yet is that when you edit a page on a wiki, your browser has a chance to screw up not just your contributions but the ''entire'' contents of the page. It happens fairly regularly on meta and wiktionary that someone (usually our dear [[User:Anthere|Anthere]] :) destroys every non-ASCII character in a page by making an edit with a browser that has broken UTF-8 support, and someone else has to go in and fix them. Until we either banish all such browsers ;) or make tweaks to make safe round-trip edits in those browsers without inconveniencing the rest of us with too much armor, the western european languages will stay in Latin-1. :::Note that you can use all the Unicode characters you want, including IPA, with &#12345; etc. See [[Wikipedia:Special characters]]. --[[User:Brion VIBBER|Brion]] 00:15 May 8, 2003 (UTC) Suggestion: keep using [[SAMPA]] in markup, but provide an option to have this "translated" into IPA characters if the user chooses. -- [[User:Tarquin|Tarquin]] 08:23 May 7, 2003 (UTC)
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